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Old 09-14-2017, 05:36 AM
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Spreads mayhem. Low eyebrow factor. Heck even I do that.
Mayhem is the name of the butter substitute for people with low IQ right?
No, you're thinking of I Can't Believe It's Not Carnage.
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and several pieces of evidence that points to it being a fake.

Which are?
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By your own admission much more detective work is needed, more handwriting samples, James's whereabouts, provenance etc

IF more info were to materialise would your probability view change?
I'm not so stubborn as to deny concrete evidence, Kaz. Right now the verdit is that Maybrick didn't write that diary, and was very unlikely to be the Ripper, or a murderer of any kind. There are enough clues as to the diary being a hoax.

If anyone is going to prove that the diary is genuine, and was written by Maybrick, and that Maybrick is the killer, then we'll need actual provenance, actual evidence, and actual sources that can be verified.

There'd certainly need to be a match for May's handwriting, and confirmation that he was in London on the dates of the C5 murders. Without either of those, it's honestly disingenuous for anyone to claim that the diary is genuine and May was the killer.
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Hey everyone, I’ve got an idea, it’s a bit radical but bear with me ….

Maybe only people who are actually interested in the diary should post on this thread. Or any other diary thread.

Instead of people saying it’s an obvious forgery, it’s full of errors, Maybrick’s not a serious suspect etc etc.

If you think it’s a fake, don’t read the thread or post anything, which will save us all a lot of time.

Otherwise it just falls into the sarcastic ‘you can’t really still believe this is real?’ type of post which doesn’t benefit anyone.

The outcome will be that anyone who’s actually interested in the diary, for whatever reason, will be able to read a thread that may actually be informative & surely that’s beneficial to everyone?
Yes. Everybody should just stick to their beliefs and not expose themselves to facts that counter their entrenched ideas. That's how the world should work. God forbid anyone challenge their concept of the universe. And gasp...possibly have to admit they were wrong. The very idea.
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No, you're thinking of I Can't Believe It's Not Carnage.
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Which are?
You already know them and they've already been pointed out repeatedly.

The most compelling, for me, is the linguistic anachronisms. The diarist might as well have written "Dude, I like totally killed those women." Like..utterly bogus, man.
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Why not? Between 1874 and 1880 he spent 6 months of every year in the States.
I've spent time in the states, but I don't come back with an American drawl and using American phrases, lol.

James did spend time between the US and UK offices of his company, but to say he'd suddenly start using American phrases because of this is a bit of a stretch.
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I'm not so stubborn as to deny concrete evidence, Kaz. Right now the verdit is that Maybrick didn't write that diary, and was very unlikely to be the Ripper, or a murderer of any kind. There are enough clues as to the diary being a hoax.

If anyone is going to prove that the diary is genuine, and was written by Maybrick, and that Maybrick is the killer, then we'll need actual provenance, actual evidence, and actual sources that can be verified.

There'd certainly need to be a match for May's handwriting, and confirmation that he was in London on the dates of the C5 murders. Without either of those, it's honestly disingenuous for anyone to claim that the diary is genuine and May was the killer.

Great, so you accept we need more info to prove categorically its fake.


Shifts your probability scale up a few notches then?
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I've spent time in the states, but I don't come back with an American drawl and using American phrases, lol.

James did spend time between the US and UK offices of his company, but to say he'd suddenly start using American phrases because of this is a bit of a stretch.

REally?

My sister lived in Wales for 10 months and came back sounding WELSH!

being cornish it wasn't best received...
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You already know them and they've already been pointed out repeatedly.

The most compelling, for me, is the linguistic anachronisms. The diarist might as well have written "Dude, I like totally killed those women." Like..utterly bogus, man.
Theres many experts in the field who totally disagree with your assumption.
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