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Old 05-20-2016, 07:11 PM
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Sometimes murderers don't capture public attention because of certain aspects of their character, though. There was nothing intrinsically interesting about Seddon. He appears to have been a miserly and extremely venal character (worried about being overcharged 6d at a music hall, while the lodger he had swindled out of all her money lay dying). There was nothing particularly likeable either about Miss Barrow either, a woman as obsessed with money as her murderer. If there is nothing to attract the public, then the case gets little notice, IMO.

I don't think Smith was an attractive figure either, but there was a certain amount of interest about the unique manner in which he killed, how these very unworldly women allowed him into the bathroom while they were bathing, (in a still prudish age) and did he use a form of hypnosis on them (as Marshall Hall, his barrister, believed,) etc.

I do wonder sometimes whether certain characteristics are more pronounced in English-speaking countries. I remember once in France a party of us, three English, two Irish, discussed ghosts, folklore and paranormal activity one evening. The majority of us were believers, but our hard-headed French hosts were in hysteria that anyone could believe such things. The next day our hostess told me that the only people she had ever met who believed in ghosts were British, Americans and a few Germans! Even allowing for her probable exaggeration I do wonder whether there is something in the Anglo-American character that wishes to believe in such phenomena. (Sorry for going off topic!)

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I can read any hieroglyphic inscription, so I suppose that makes me another person with an interest in ancient Egypt who has joined this board. Howard Carter, I think, was a stickler for detail and accuracy. But he may have become inventive when it came to just when the chamber that was the treasury in the tomb of Tutankhamun was *first* entered. Regardless, I fully agree that the timing of a murder or a series thereof makes a difference as to the extent of coverage it receives. Here in the US there are so many murders via shooting that it has become almost a case of "Next?"
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I can read any hieroglyphic inscription, so I suppose that makes me another person with an interest in ancient Egypt who has joined this board. Howard Carter, I think, was a stickler for detail and accuracy. But he may have become inventive when it came to just when the chamber that was the treasury in the tomb of Tutankhamun was *first* entered. Regardless, I fully agree that the timing of a murder or a series thereof makes a difference as to the extent of coverage it receives. Here in the US there are so many murders via shooting that it has become almost a case of "Next?"
Carter (from what I have been reading) had serious personality problems with any authority figures he felt thwarted what he wanted to do. However, his achievement was so spectacular we tend to forget his defects, and concentrate on his success (like his 19th Century predecessor in the discovery of Troy's location, Heinrich Schleimann). It reminds one of that old saying about the sins and character failures of the dead are buried in their graves.

As for the shootings in the U.S., regrettably you are right - we end up wondering when and where the next big one will be.

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Hi Aldebaran

There was a time I could do any inscription myself, these days I need my ref books, still using Gardiner myself, to help me( do use a few more modern to, but learnt on Gardiner.)

Glad to have another on Board.

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