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Old 05-15-2016, 09:05 AM
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Was Jack an Alcoholic?
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Hello John,

An interesting question but one that is very difficult to answer. We don't even know if Jack drank at all let alone whether or not he was an alcoholic. I think the best we can do is speculate that he might have frequented the pubs perhaps buying drinks for his victims but that is in no way an indication of alcoholism.

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Hi, John,

It's entirely possible Jack was an alcoholic, but whether he indulged in regular drink might depend upon his circumstances. For instance, homeless suspects like Francis Thompson wouldn't have been able to afford gin too often.

Are you looking at this idea for a possible reason for the apparent changes in skill level of the mulitations?
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Hi, John,

It's entirely possible Jack was an alcoholic, but whether he indulged in regular drink might depend upon his circumstances. For instance, homeless suspects like Francis Thompson wouldn't have been able to afford gin too often.

Are you looking at this idea for a possible reason for the apparent changes in skill level of the mulitations?
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Well it was suggested in another thread that atleast one of the victims may have been an alcoholic however I have long believed Jack was an alcoholic and that different levels of inebriation may have effected how much perceived skill has been attributed to the different C5 murders. Its worth noting that alot of serial killers tend to have drink problems' and alot commit murder under the influence.

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Statistically, serial killers tend not to be substance abusers.
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Statistically, serial killers tend not to be substance abusers.
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Really I'd like to see these statistics?

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Really I'd like to see these statistics?

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http://www.jaapl.org/content/22/1/133.full.pdf
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http://www.statisticbrain.com/serial...-demographics/

Serial Killer Statistics Data
Number of classified Serial Killers worldwide since 1980 154
Number of classified Serial Killers in the U.S. since 1980 87
Number of active serial killers at any given time in the U.S. 35
Number of serial killer suspects currently on the FBI list 271
Percent of serial killers who experienced problems related to substance abuse 72.5 %

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Well it was suggested in another thread that atleast one of the victims may have been an alcoholic however I have long believed Jack was an alcoholic and that different levels of inebriation may have effected how much perceived skill has been attributed to the different C5 murders. Its worth noting that alot of serial killers tend to have drink problems' and alot commit murder under the influence.

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Hello, John,

I will readily agree that drunkeness may lead to violence, whether in the bar-room or the home, but a drunken serial killer might not be that common. At the same time, it is not improbable that modern serial killers (particularly those which are now imprisoned) would report substance abuse.

Do you think Jack might have been an alcoholic, yet was sober when he stalked and killed his victims?
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Old 05-15-2016, 12:07 PM
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Hello, John,

I will readily agree that drunkeness may lead to violence, whether in the bar-room or the home, but a drunken serial killer might not be that common. At the same time, it is not improbable that modern serial killers (particularly those which are now imprisoned) would report substance abuse.

Do you think Jack might have been an alcoholic, yet was sober when he stalked and killed his victims?
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I think Jack would have been a functioning alcoholic in as much as alcohol not effecting him too much while murdering except that some of his mutilation may have been effected by him being sloppy in some of the cutting with some of the C5.

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