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Is there any evidence that Foster was in Goulston St before the message was erased? Or could he have simply recorded someone elses version of the writing when noting it's position?
Hi Joshua, yes that occurred to me too.
Foster said that the distance from Mitre Sq. to Goulston St. was 1550 feet.

The police had a device called a Beat-Wheel, which was used to measure every beat. I'm sure Foster had something similar, if that was used to measure the stated distance from Mitre Sq. to Goulston St., then perhaps Foster was the one who made this measurement, meaning he may have been there.
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do you know if lawende ever stated seeing her apron bridewell?
Six people mentioned Kate wearing an apron at the inquest, but I don't believe Lawende was one of them. However, he did say he'd seen her clothes at the police station and believed they were the ones the woman he saw was wearing.
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Hi Joshua, yes that occurred to me too.
Foster said that the distance from Mitre Sq. to Goulston St. was 1550 feet.

The police had a device called a Beat-Wheel, which was used to measure every beat. I'm sure Foster had something similar, if that was used to measure the stated distance from Mitre Sq. to Goulston St., then perhaps Foster was the one who made this measurement, meaning he may have been there.
I was about to say, would they have called a surveyor out in the middle of the night to make drawings of the scene, but remembered that he did make a sketch of the wounds which must have been pre-autopsy, and indeed that sketch was apparently done at 03:45, so perhaps he did get to Goulston St before daylight.
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Hi Joshua, yes that occurred to me too.
Foster said that the distance from Mitre Sq. to Goulston St. was 1550 feet.

The police had a device called a Beat-Wheel, which was used to measure every beat. I'm sure Foster had something similar, if that was used to measure the stated distance from Mitre Sq. to Goulston St., then perhaps Foster was the one who made this measurement, meaning he may have been there.
Isn't it more likely that the police used the beat wheel and simply told Foster the distance?
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Isn't it more likely that the police used the beat wheel and simply told Foster the distance?
Typically when a professional is employed to produce a plan, the content of that plan is the responsibility of the professional so employed.
Remember, this was a City case, so the Met. have nothing to do with this.
The City employed Foster in his capacity as a surveyor, so he isn't going to tell the City force to get him the distance, and no-one is going to ask the Met to do the measurement for him.
Foster is a Surveyor, it's his job.
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i read your post on 30 inches wickerman but im 50-50 only bc i,m wondering what metric that last zero becomes if the metric for 30 is in inches. not saying he couldn,t have gaffed but he demonstrates professional standards with the lamp measurement. could it have been 30 feet from the end of the street?
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i read your post on 30 inches wickerman but im 50-50 only bc i,m wondering what metric that last zero becomes if the metric for 30 is in inches. not saying he couldn,t have gaffed but he demonstrates professional standards with the lamp measurement. could it have been 30 feet from the end of the street?
Hi Robert.

Here is an enlarged view of the Wentworth Model Dwellings.
You can see the width across the street is 48 feet, so whatever that 30 feet is, it doesn't even reach across the street, never mind the end of the street.
The grey circles are water hydrants.

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In this view we can see a line drawn from that 3rd line of text to something, but the line fades out.
The Graffiti (The Juwes are not...etc.) can be seen close by the bottom right to this other set of notes.
I feel that with them both being so close there must be a relationship between the two.

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is the W part of the writing too?
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is the W part of the writing too?
No, that indicates WEST, there's a very faint E on the other side of the Compass.
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