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Old 05-18-2017, 12:13 PM
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Was Lechmere a psychopath?

In an earlier thread (Lechmere a witness to the killer, # 18) Fisherman wrote to me:

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To my mind, only a psychopath would have done what I suggest that Lechmere did. So the psychopathy is secondary - but is is tied to the case as a demand.

If Lechmere was not a psychopath, then he was not the killer and I am all wrong about this.
If Lechmere was not a psychopath, then he was not the killer, according to Fisherman

OK, I will make this easy and try some simple article from Psychology today.

(http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...s-psychopath-0)

A psychopath is for example:

Uncaring
Irresponsable
Selfish
Inable to plan for the future
Violent

Now, let´s apply this on what I have heard about Lechmere:

Uncaring - raised a family, worked and provided for his family. Saw to it that one of his kids was cared for at his mothers place. Fetched a police constable when finding a woman lying on his way to work. Went freely to a murder inquest. Left money for his family.

Conclusion: Lechmere was not uncaring.

Irresponsable - raised a family, worked and provided for his family. Saw to it that one of his kids was cared for at his mothers place. Fetched a police constable when finding a woman lying on his way to work. Went freely to a murder inquest. Left money for his family.

Conclusion: Lechmere was not irresponsable.

Selfish - raised a family, worked and provided for his family. Saw to it that one of his kids was cared for at his mothers place. Fetched a police constable when finding a woman lying on his way to work. Went freely to a murder inquest. Left money for his family.

Conclusion: Lechmere was not selfish.

Inable to plan for the future - raised a family, worked and provided for his family. Saw to it that one of his kids was cared for at his mothers place. Fetched a police constable when finding a woman lying on his way to work. Went freely to a murder inquest. Left money for his family.

Conclusion: Lechmere was not inable to plan for the future.

Violent - raised a family, worked and provided for his family. Saw to it that one of his kids was cared for at his mothers place. Fetched a police constable when finding a woman lying on his way to work. Went freely to a murder inquest. Left money for his family.

Conclusion: There are no sources found showing that Lechmere was violent.

Summing up: Lechmere was not a psychopath and therefore, according to Fisherman, Lechmere was not Jack the Ripper.

Pierre
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The photograph was enough for me. The man's as guilty as sin.
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A psychopath is for example:

Uncaring
Irresponsable
Selfish
Inable to plan for the future
Violent
My dear boy, how charming of you to omit some from the list, but what do you have to say about:

Shallow emotions
Insincere speech
Overconfidence
Narrowing of attention

Do you think these might be characteristic of him, my dear boy?

Lechmere I mean, not Fisherman.
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My dear boy, how charming of you to omit some from the list, but what do you have to say about:

Shallow emotions
Insincere speech
Overconfidence
Narrowing of attention

Do you think these might be characteristic of him, my dear boy?

Lechmere I mean, not Fisherman.
We have no sources for those dimensions so I can not hypothesize.
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We have no sources for those dimensions so I can not hypothesize.
Oh my dear dear boy, what about his inquest testimony?
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Oh my dear dear boy, what about his inquest testimony?
Yes, what about it David?
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Yes, what about it David?
My dear boy, does his speech strike you as insincere? Does he show overconfidence? Did his attention narrow? And what about his emotions towards the woman lying on the ground that his testimony revealed?

I'm sure your analysis of these factors will be much welcomed my dear boy.
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Summing up: Lechmere was not a psychopath and therefore, according to Fisherman, Lechmere was not Jack the Ripper.

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Thank you Pierre, for this latest of many, many demonstrations that you are not unduly obsessed with the Lechmere theory, due to having solved the case yourself using internal and external source criticism applied academically to sources found in The Archives.

Very good. Carry on.
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I've made this exact argument for years. So, I know where this is headed. We will get examples of serial killers who were married (although, I've yet be provided an example of one who was married for fifty years, to the same woman). Examples of serial killers who had kids (although, I'm not sure I've gotten an example of one who had 11 kids, all with the same woman). We'll get examples of serial killers who maintained steady employment (although, I'm not sure we'll see one who managed it in a time a place when so many tried and failed to do so).

In the end, its a pretty simple equation: Fisherman himself tells us that in order to have been Jack the Ripper Charles Lechmere HAD to have been a psychopath. Okay. So. Do we have any evidence that Lechmere WAS a psychopath? Anything? Anything at all? No? Alright. Then we have our answer. Charles Lechmere was NOT Jack the Ripper.
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