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Old 08-30-2016, 07:10 AM
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Just like Rader, this guy was able to spread his victims out over a longer period of the time, whereas the "Ripper" murdered at least five victims in a twelve week period. Therein lies the difference.
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Thanks Christer.
Lots of background commonalities there .. age, profession, marital status ..

I will be more careful in future when I complain about the price of fags to the guy in my local shop.
That may well be a clever approach. Ever considered giving up smoking on the whole?
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Just like Rader, this guy was able to spread his victims out over a longer period of the time, whereas the "Ripper" murdered at least five victims in a twelve week period. Therein lies the difference.
You THINK the difference lies in there. But you do not know how many people the Ripper killed, do you? If the torsos are to be added, the spectrum changes dramatically.

Any idea whether the Chinese killer always killed at a steady rate or if he had intense killing periods, broken off by more placid years...?
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Every day.
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You THINK the difference lies in there. But you do not know how many people the Ripper killed, do you? If the torsos are to be added, the spectrum changes dramatically.

Any idea whether the Chinese killer always killed at a steady rate or if he had intense killing periods, broken off by more placid years...?
It shows that these men had a greater degree of self-control, which is how they were able to lead such a double-life. The Ripper killed over a much shorter period of time, and even struck twice in one night because his bloodlust wasn't satiated.
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It shows that these men had a greater degree of self-control, which is how they were able to lead such a double-life. The Ripper killed over a much shorter period of time, and even struck twice in one night because his bloodlust wasn't satiated.
Eh - once again: the Ripper of whom you talk is an invention concocted out of guesswork. We do not know how many victims he had, we do not know if the ripping was a sideline, we do not know if the double event was him in both cases, and even if it was, we do not know that he had not decided beforehand to kill twice that night - the suggestion has been put forward by Tom Wescott.

We can therefore not rationally decide that the Ripper was more or less in control than any other killer.
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Every day.
Well, then, Jon - there´s your motivation! My dad (and I won´t tell you what killed him at the age of 50) always said that stopping smoking was not the hard thing - it was not to start again...
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Eh - once again: the Ripper of whom you talk is an invention concocted out of guesswork. We do not know how many victims he had, we do not know if the ripping was a sideline, we do not know if the double event was him in both cases, and even if it was, we do not know that he had not decided beforehand to kill twice that night - the suggestion has been put forward by Tom Wescott.

We can therefore not rationally decide that the Ripper was more or less in control than any other killer.
Are you denying that he killed at least five victims within 12 weeks?
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It shows that these men had a greater degree of self-control, which is how they were able to lead such a double-life. The Ripper killed over a much shorter period of time, and even struck twice in one night because his bloodlust wasn't satiated.
Hi Harry
just off the top of my head-Bundy.
very comparable to ripper/torso man in the things you mentioned.
sometimes he had greater self control-other times not. killed two women (not together) in one day. went spells were he held off. went berserk and attacked multiple women on one night.

His MO changed and as a matter of fact if he wasn't caught and we knew exactly which women were his victims, they wouldn't have been able to link because some were so different it even looked like the signature was different.
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Interesting report, but the story said he killed young women dressed in red, then later mentions his youngest victim was only eight years old. Rather a broad interpretation of "women", not that it matters that much, I suppose.

Where did his hatred of women (and girls) come from? In a crime drama, they would speculate he had been abused in childhood by his mother and elder sister, who both favored the color red. Too bad real life isn't that tidy...
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Where did his hatred of women (and girls) come from?
I think with serial killers it has more to do with enjoying the act of killing, mutilating, sex with victim than hatred.
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