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Old 05-19-2017, 01:40 PM
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A beat map from the 1930s, for H Division, which gives an idea of Beat routes.

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That a very great help. Lots of areas walked ovrer twice as I had assumed must be the case.

If Thain was accurate with his inquest testimony that he passed Bakers Row every 30 minutes I can only conclude that he did not cover every street every circuit,

I just do not see a speed of over 4mph as being viable over a whole nights patrol..

Of course it may be that the 30 minutes he stated was not exact.


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Old 05-19-2017, 01:56 PM
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Beats were walked at 2 1/2 mph at night.

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Old 05-19-2017, 05:12 PM
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Beats were walked at 2 1/2 mph at night.

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Monty

Please forgive me but Am a little confused. By the above.

You have posted differently in the past below are 3 examples:

Pc Neil's route post #2

Beats were walked at 2 1/2 mph in the day, 3 mph in the evening. This needs to be taken into account. Also, checks were made on vulnerable buildings, which took time to execute.




Bernerr street to Mitre Square: how long post # 8

Standard allocated speed for a Met PC is 2 and 1/2 mph in the day, 3 mph in the evening.


Beats post #7
Beats were supposed to be patrolled at 3 mph in the evening and 2 1/2 during the day. on average they were around 30 mins but were longer the further towards the suburbs you went. The inner city patrols were the shortest.



So I hope you can see why I am confused? This seems to be the opposite of what you posted today.

In my thread the Bucks Row project I did raise this point but no-one came back on it; so I am glad you have now.


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No, my bad Steve,

Sorry.

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No, my bad Steve,

Sorry.

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Not sure what that means Monty. Knows it is early.

But which is correct?

For my work on Neil it's not so important if 2.5mph it only adds 20 or so seconds on to the part of his beat that is of interest

All the best. Sun is out here in London.


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Constable John Neil's inquest testimony is interesting. He was never far from "the spot".
There were three police thereabouts. Not one of them saw anything.


Would be interesting to know who the third bobby was? Amusing it's not Mizen who was from a different division? It would suggest that there was another J Division bobby nearby whose duties brought him close to both Neil's & Thain's beat?
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Mizen.

Hanbury Street was Jack's route home.
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Police Sergeant Kirby.

Was Kirby H or J Division at that point?
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I made this map. It's based on the news paper report, but as I didn't have a period map, I had to use a modern one from Google maps, so the street plans might vary as the area has been developed considerable over the last 100+ years, but it's meant to just be a rough guide.

Going off subject slightly, I'm currently trying to ascertain the positions of the fixed points, once I have done this I'll be sure to post them onto the forum.
The fixed points have been posted before. They are in Dickens's Dictionary of London 1888.
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