Casebook: Jack the Ripper - Main
   

Introduction
Victims
Suspects
Witnesses
Ripper Letters
Police Officials
Official Documents
Press Reports
Victorian London
Message Boards
Ripper Media
Authors
Dissertations
Timelines
Games & Diversions
Photo Archive
Ripper Wiki
Casebook Examiner
Ripper Podcast
About the Casebook

Most Recent Posts:
Goulston Street Graffito: Can we profile the Ripper from the GSG? - by DJA 38 minutes ago.
Goulston Street Graffito: Can we profile the Ripper from the GSG? - by Pcdunn 1 hour and 18 minutes ago.
Goulston Street Graffito: Can we profile the Ripper from the GSG? - by DJA 2 hours ago.
Witnesses: Why Buck's Row? - by Simon Wood 2 hours ago.
Goulston Street Graffito: Can we profile the Ripper from the GSG? - by Pcdunn 2 hours ago.
Rippercast: Index of Rippercast Podcasts - by jmenges 4 hours ago.

Most Popular Threads:
Witnesses: Why Buck's Row? - (65 posts)
Goulston Street Graffito: Can we profile the Ripper from the GSG? - (25 posts)
Maybrick, James: One Incontrovertible, Unequivocal, Undeniable Fact Which Refutes the Diary - (12 posts)
Rippercast: Index of Rippercast Podcasts - (5 posts)
General Police Discussion: Kelly inquest/Smithkey - (4 posts)
Motive, Method and Madness: Was Annie Chapman a rotund woman? - (3 posts)

Wiki Updates:
Robert Sagar
Edit: Chris
May 9, 2015, 12:32 am
Online newspaper archives
Edit: Chris
Nov 26, 2014, 10:25 am
Joseph Lawende
Edit: Chris
Mar 9, 2014, 10:12 am
Miscellaneous research resources
Edit: Chris
Feb 13, 2014, 9:28 am
Charles Cross
Edit: John Bennett
Sep 4, 2013, 8:20 pm

Most Recent Blogs:
Mike Covell: A DECADE IN THE MAKING.
February 19, 2016, 11:12 am.
Chris George: RipperCon in Baltimore, April 8-10, 2016
February 10, 2016, 2:55 pm.
Mike Covell: Hull Prison Visit
October 10, 2015, 8:04 am.
Mike Covell: NEW ADVENTURES IN RESEARCH
August 9, 2015, 3:10 am.
Mike Covell: UPDDATES FOR THE PAST 11 MONTHS
November 14, 2014, 10:02 am.
Mike Covell: Mike’s Book Releases
March 17, 2014, 3:18 am.

Go Back   Casebook Forums > Ripper Media > Books > Non-Fiction

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #481  
Old 05-12-2017, 08:14 AM
Elamarna Elamarna is offline
Assistant Commissioner
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: South london
Posts: 3,317
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
Why does Marriott always get to be The Mangler and I'm the baby killer?

So, you're an Olympic weight lifter and Abby is into the MMA. And yet you're two of the nice ones.

For the record, there's actually not a lot of trouble makers in Ripperology. It just seems that way when they choose to band together and gang up on someone. And they only gang up on people who put out books that receive positive attention for being 'original'. Somehow this is a trigger mechanism for them. I reserve certain sides of my personality only for these individuals and only when they behave a certain way. Otherwise I'm all good times and noodle salad. This comment does not of course refer to all those who have criticisms of my book (most criticisms are healthy and appreciated), but I think it's obvious I'm referring to a very, very small and particular group of individuals.

If you think they had the knives out for me, wait until the Swanson book comes out.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott
Tom

I am sure Adam is well prepared with his tin helmet.


Steve
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
  #482  
Old 05-12-2017, 08:17 AM
Patrick S Patrick S is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 968
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
Why does Marriott always get to be The Mangler and I'm the baby killer?

So, you're an Olympic weight lifter and Abby is into the MMA. And yet you're two of the nice ones.

For the record, there's actually not a lot of trouble makers in Ripperology. It just seems that way when they choose to band together and gang up on someone. And they only gang up on people who put out books that receive positive attention for being 'original'. Somehow this is a trigger mechanism for them. I reserve certain sides of my personality only for these individuals and only when they behave a certain way. Otherwise I'm all good times and noodle salad. This comment does not of course refer to all those who have criticisms of my book (most criticisms are healthy and appreciated), but I think it's obvious I'm referring to a very, very small and particular group of individuals.

If you think they had the knives out for me, wait until the Swanson book comes out.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott
WAS a lifter. Retired 12 years ago. Although I still train, the intensity of training required to compete is more hazardous to your health than arguing about "the carman" with Christer.
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
  #483  
Old 05-12-2017, 08:25 AM
Tom_Wescott Tom_Wescott is offline
Commisioner
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,661
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elamarna View Post
Tom

I am sure Adam is well prepared with his tin helmet.


Steve
The entire Cabal is, I'm sure.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
  #484  
Old 05-12-2017, 08:26 AM
Tom_Wescott Tom_Wescott is offline
Commisioner
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,661
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick S View Post
WAS a lifter. Retired 12 years ago. Although I still train, the intensity of training required to compete is more hazardous to your health than arguing about "the carman" with Christer.
I've just recently hired a trainer to work out with me twice a week and it's killing me. LOL. I can't imagine what must go into working yourself up to being a weight lifter. I do know that some order cheap testosterone and steroids from overseas in powder form and mix it and inject it themselves. That is playing with fire in the worst way. But I'd like to think most are smarter than that.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
  #485  
Old 05-12-2017, 08:27 AM
Fisherman Fisherman is online now
Commisioner
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 15,028
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick S View Post
WAS a lifter. Retired 12 years ago. Although I still train, the intensity of training required to compete is more hazardous to your health than arguing about "the carman" with Christer.
But my argument carries more weight.
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
  #486  
Old 05-12-2017, 08:43 AM
Patrick S Patrick S is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 968
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fisherman View Post
But my argument carries more weight.
Now. THAT was good.
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
  #487  
Old 05-12-2017, 09:02 AM
Tom_Wescott Tom_Wescott is offline
Commisioner
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 6,661
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fisherman View Post
But my argument carries more weight.
Okay, Fish has done it again. It's now between this and Gary's hat-band joke for best post of the thread. I'm torn. But I do take off my large, stretched hat to you for this, Fish.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
  #488  
Old 05-12-2017, 09:40 AM
David Orsam David Orsam is offline
Commisioner
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 6,657
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dane_F View Post
Clearly when I say we do not know how much time has elapsed I am speaking about when Millous went into the hospital and when the record was made. We know the record was made at a later time but how much later, we cannot say.
Right, and what I have been asking you repeatedly is what difference does it make that there was a time gap between those two events. In other words, what difference would it make if there was an entire week or an entire month or even an entire year between the time of entry by MM into the hospital building and the time that the record was created showing a date of admission to the hospital of 1 September?
__________________
Orsam Books
www.orsam.co.uk
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
  #489  
Old 05-12-2017, 09:42 AM
David Orsam David Orsam is offline
Commisioner
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 6,657
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
Based on what you've learned about me throughout our exchange on this thread, and what you've read from the exchanges in which you did not participate, how do you think I processed the paragraph above?
That is one of the strangest questions I've been asked on this forum, Tom. You told me in this thread on 5 July:

"if you have questions, feel free to ask."

I've now asked you 10 questions reasonable questions I think - and you have given no indication that you are prepared to answer them, let alone that you will answer them. In fact, you haven't even given any indication that you are aware that of their existence.

How do I think that you processed a paragraph in which I tried to assure you that no-one is trying to humiliate you or get one over on you? I really have no idea. I like to think that you "processed" it by reading it and understanding the words to mean that no-one is trying to humiliate you or get one over on you. That is what they were intended to mean. Obviously I can't actually speak for anyone else but I am certainly not trying to humiliate you or get one over on you (do you think that is what people ARE trying to do then?) and I wanted to make the point to encourage you to answer the questions in case that is what is worrying you.

Are you going to answer them?
__________________
Orsam Books
www.orsam.co.uk
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
  #490  
Old 05-12-2017, 09:44 AM
David Orsam David Orsam is offline
Commisioner
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 6,657
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by harry View Post
Now I have not,in all the years posting here,talked to or personally met and conversed with any other poster.So do not include me as being for or against anyone on a personel level.
The hospital records certainly have the 1st as the date of admission,but was that the date on which the injury occurred?That is what I believe Tom was trying to determine.He seemingly believes the injury could have occurred on the day previous to admission.That is what should have been argued.
Could it? I believe it possible.I could be wrong,but insisting his mistake over the 1st,on it's own,disproves his belief,doesn't prove he's wrong.
Yes but, Harry, when I asked Tom directly in this thread on what date Margaret was admitted to hospital, he told me August 31st. That was on 7 May which was a full three days after Gary Barnett had posted a cropped image of the admission register on JTR forums, so Tom had had plenty of time to think about it. He has never actually corrected his answer and consequently it is been difficult if not impossible to proceed with an orderly debate in the manner you suggest. But if, as you accept, the date of admission was 1 September and the injury was inflicted at about 3am on 31st, Tom needs to explain the reason for the minimum 21 hour delay before Margaret was admitted to hospital.
__________________
Orsam Books
www.orsam.co.uk
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 10:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.