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Old 09-24-2016, 05:12 PM
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As far as I am concerned we call it good enough. It is the closest match in Bankside. Thanks for the map! :-)
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I've been using this map from the mid 1890s (I'm sure you put me on to it Jerry), it's got the wharf names on too;

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom...layers=163&b=1

Nelson Wharf is just off the left of your map. It's the only one I've seen that might be confused for Newton...
Thanks Joshua,

I have found a few references for Newton's draw-dock located at Bankside. In the same breath the article references Old Paris Garden, which you will find just East of Blackfriar's Bridge.
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I think I have this nailed.

The Builder, Volume 46, 1884 (Page 693)

James Newton and Son's Tile Works, 78-9, Bankside, represent the Falcon Tavern at the foot of Falcon Dock.

The map I provided shows Falcon Drawing Docks very close to and east of the Blackfriar's Bridge next to Paris Gardens. This all jives with the Newton Drawing Docks references near Paris Gardens. James Newton's Tile Company probably used the docks for shipments and thus coined the name, Newton's Wharf.

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Well, there's a Falcon draw dock and wharf next to Paris Gardens. And there's also a draw dock (unnamed) next to Nelson's Wharf. Plus a Newell's Wharf just East of Tower Bridge. And a couple of unnamed one. And my eyes are going funny. Time for bed.
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Must have crossed posts, Joshua. Yes, I believe Falcon Drawing Docks was aka, Newton's Wharf. (See post #13)
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Here is one more reference that pretty much seals the location, in my mind anyways.

Bankside/British History

No. 79 (Falcon Drawing Dock)

The Falcon Drawing Dock and the premises on the east side, No. 79 Bankside, are on the site of part of the Falcon Inn. They were leased to Messrs. Newton & Sons, firebrick merchants, the present owners, in 18334 by Messrs. Handasyde & Prickett, who had a lease from the Bishop of Winchester. No. 79, the office, was rebuilt in 1840 though it retains two patches of early 18th-century walling. The door and windows facing the dock on what now forms the main front, and those at the north end, are treated with classical mouldings. They date from the rebuilding.
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Great work JD, that seems pretty conclusive!
Not that it gets us any nearer to knowing when or where the pieces were dumped into the river, but at least we now know where they were all found.
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Great work JD, that seems pretty conclusive!
Not that it gets us any nearer to knowing when or where the pieces were dumped into the river, but at least we now know where they were all found.
Thanks JR,

Leave no stone unturned, as the saying goes, and maybe it will eventually help down the road. Who knows?

Also, out of interest, the Falcon Inn/Tavern was "celebrated for having been the daily resort of Shakespeare and his dramatic companions." The Globe Theatre was close by.
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