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Old 01-07-2016, 07:49 PM
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The Skoptsy. Look them up in Wiki and there is two very good photos of what they looked like after their "castration." If that guy could have normal sexual relations with a woman that wasn't something besides his missing member then I am Batman!

If the guy in this thread went to those people and went through with their rituals, he was ruined sexually, which of course was the idea.

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Wasn't Bury's wife a prostitute at one point? And didn't he mutilate her?
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Old 01-08-2016, 03:22 PM
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Well John, I guess there's mutilation, and there's mutilation.

This is how the murder scene was described:

Police officers visited Princes Street and began a search by candlelight. The apartment was bare of possessions, the only items in the two rooms were a small bed piled high with clothing, and a large white-washed packing case. Opening the box, by raising two loose boards on the lid and pulling back a piece of sheeting, they revealed the leg and foot of a female. Proceeding no further, they summoned doctors Templeman and Stalker, who proceeded to examine the contents of the 3ft 3in long, by 2ft 4in across, and 2ft 1in deep trunk. They discovered the naked and mutilated body of Ellen Bury, she had been strangled and her abdomen had been ripped open by a wound beginning 1 inches from the pubis and extending upwards for 4 inches, the wound was so severe that 12 inches of intestines were protruding through her stomach. Apart from the wound to the abdomen there were a total of nine other knife wounds to the body. The box, which was clearly too small to accommodate the body, had been packed tightly with books and clothing. Ellen's head had been forced to one side of the shoulder, the left leg was broken and twisted to such a degree that the foot rested on the left shoulder, the right leg had been smashed in order to fit it into the box, the body was lying on it's back on a petticoat and a piece of cloth. A long bladed knife, which had been used to commit the crime, lay nearby, along with a rope, complete with strands of hair still attached.

http://www.casebook.org/ripper_media...morley/30.html

Not what I would call a "Ripper" style murder.
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Well John, I guess there's mutilation, and there's mutilation.

Not what I would call a "Ripper" style murder.
I have to disagree with you Wickerman. I would call Ellen Bury's murder a Ripper style murder. Admittedly Ellen wasn't mutilated to the extent of Mary Jane Kelly. However if Bury had mutilated Ellen Bury to the extent of Mary Jane Kelly he would have been hung as the Ripper. It seems to me Bury thought he'd get away with Ellen's murder. So we're basically left with the question of wether Bury was the Ripper or the World's first copycat killer?

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