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http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.co...-08/0965273838

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas..._(toxicologist)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrop...itch#Town_Hall


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roderi...ld_(politician)

Small world.
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I Checked out the mothers surname on childrens registration ...
All born in Shoreditch...
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James ......Weckly
Edward.....Wheatley
Henry ......Wheatley
Mary A..... Weakley

Pat...
Points to Emma Wheatley,Nicholas Street in 1841.

It is an institution with four others.

Seems to be run by Joseph and Mary Taafe.
Joseph was born in Ireland around the turn of the century.
Taafe is a name associated with the Limerick area.
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Although the Place of Birth shows as Whitechapel, I wouldn't necessarily discount this on a census taken at somewhere like the Whitechapel Infirmary. My thinking is that it's unlikely the person completing the return went round every inmate getting accurate details and so probably made an educated guess in some cases. Shouldn't have done so obviously, but human nature being what it is...
Crikey,her possible mother goes from.......

1841 Emma Wheatley 20yo

1851 Emma Taaffe 31yo

1861 Emma Kelly 42yo

Might be a family trait

Worked on the Oz 1981 Census. Real circus. You have no idea.
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My favourite.

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Henry Gawen Sutton
England Births and Christenings
Name Henry Gawen Sutton
Gender Male
Christening Date 29 Aug 1835
Christening Date (Original) 29 AUG 1835
Christening Place WEST ACKLAM,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name Henry Sutton
Mother's Name Susannah
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Crikey,her possible mother goes from.......

1841 Emma Wheatley 20yo

1851 Emma Taaffe 31yo

1861 Emma Kelly 42yo
You don't often see it, but "Taaffe" is more often than not an Irish surname.
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Yep.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viscount_Taaffe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Carlingford

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Limerick

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Knocknanuss
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You don't often see it, but "Taaffe" is more often than not an Irish surname.
Ironic that the river Taff,as in Taffy,flows through Cardiff suburbs.
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Ironic that the river Taff,as in Taffy,flows through Cardiff suburbs.
Indeed, Dave. Strictly speaking, it's the river Taf (one "f"), which is pronounced "Tarve" but, annoyingly, the mispronunciation "Taff" has become the norm, with a totally unnecessary - and incorrect - extra "f" tacked onto the end.

"Taf" is just another variant on a commonly-used name for rivers in ancient Britain. In Wales, we have the Taf, Teifi, Tawe and Tywi; elsewhere the Tay, Teme, Teviot, Tamar, Tavy, Team, Taw, Tyne and Thames ("Tafwys" in the original Welsh). Most, if not all, of these names appear to derive from a Brythonic root word meaning something like "dark water".

The nickname "Taffy", though, comes from a mispronunciation of the Welsh for David ("Dafydd").
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Thanks Sam.

That'll give me something to chew on
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Thanks Sam.

That'll give me something to chew on
I see what you did there
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