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It would be useful if the photograph in "Inside Story" be reproduced here.
I thought about it but there may be copyright issues and I'm too scared.
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Okay I've seen the diagram in Feldman's book. The initials at the top right of the diagram are not visible in any way in the photograph in "Inside Story".

I can just about see "TC" (or "TL") and I'm wondering whose initials they are supposed to be in Maybrick World.
Ok, Well that particular one in the diagram is Mary Kelly. I'm just wondering if there were any of the books on the subject which were written in the 80's and 90's which disputed whether Mary Kelly was a member of the canon? I can't remember who it was who first suggested Kelly might not have been a Ripper murder.

Looking at the diagram, apart from TC or TL, there's also JV, or WN to consider.
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there's also JV, or WN to consider.
WN is, I assume, actually MN, i.e. Mary Nichols.

JV is potentially another set of initials but it all gets mixed up into one with MN and J. Maybrick. So it may not really be there.
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I thought about it but there may be copyright issues and I'm too scared.
Ok, I'd better not reproduce the diagram here then. You know, the inscriptions are that obscure it makes one wonder how Albert Johnston and friends associated them with Maybrick, and Jack The Ripper. The name "Maybrick" is plainly seen though, Dundas would not have failed to see that.
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WN is, I assume, actually MN, i.e. Mary Nichols.

JV is potentially another set of initials but it all gets mixed up into one with MN and J. Maybrick. So it may not really be there.
Right. All in all though, I'd say the inscriptions are a definite attempt to associate James Maybrick with Jack The Ripper.
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Ok, I'd better not reproduce the diagram here then. You know, the inscriptions are that obscure it makes one wonder how Albert Johnston and friends associated them with Maybrick, and Jack The Ripper. The name "Maybrick" is plainly seen though, Dundas would not have failed to see that.
If he could clearly see "I am Jack" there then maybe it peaked his interest. In the photograph the name "Jack" is only partially visible but the last two letters might well be hidden in shadow.
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If he could clearly see "I am Jack" there then maybe it peaked his interest. In the photograph the name "Jack" is only partially visible but the last two letters might well be hidden in shadow.
Indeed. "I am Jack" is plainly depicted in the diagram. I'm sure Johnston, and friends could clearly make it out. Also, I should have said Dundas would not have failed to see "J Maybrick", and "I am Jack", should it have been there. Dundas has categorically stated he did not see it when he repaired the watch. I very much doubt it was there at that time.

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This website has a small photo of the watch scratches, bottom of page;

http://virginiaclub.com/VC/Infamy.html
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Better rendition of the watch scratches here. David O correct in stating that the N in between J and MAYBRICK, is the N which follows the M, that is Mary Nichols.

http://www.jacktheripper.de/tatverdaechtige/maybrick/
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