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Old 05-05-2015, 07:11 AM
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Hello Trevor. Thanks.

Well, I have read some of their personal stories.

Know of any with money?

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Hello Trevor. Thanks.

Well, I have read some of their personal stories.

Know of any with money?

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Well I am sure they didn't all just go there and sit chewing the fat for hours and hours drinking cold tea and water.

Are you suggesting that on the night Stride was murdered all that were present in the club were penniless. That would be a first a room a full of jews with not a pot to piss in between them!

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I think this knocking to the ground has been exaggerated. A simple explanation could be that Stride took hold of a potential client who clearly didnt want to know and pushed her away knocking her to the ground.

But of course simple and plausible explanations are no what ripper researchers seek.

There are no forensics to match so why keep mentioning them

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I doubt she was doing that.

"No, not tonight, some other night"

Forensic results are in the inquest.
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Old 05-05-2015, 10:20 AM
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Hello Trevor. Thanks.

But what did they do (mostly) for a living?

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I doubt she was doing that.

"No, not tonight, some other night"

Forensic results are in the inquest.
You doubt it because it is a plausible explanation which isn't in line with what you want to believe.

What about "Go away and leave me alone I have a wife at home waiting for me"

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Okay you originally said 5, now 15.
You're right.
I deserve a good thrashing for that.


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We are talking about the same area (literally a few feet). That is an important factor is discounting the 'other' killer hypothesis.
Between the altercation, and where the body was found yes, not much more than about 5 feet (I mean 5 this time).
Though plenty of time to cross the road and back, or go deep into the back of the yard with a client.

But then, where did Schwartz get the time from, it appears he came down Berner St. in the same direction as Diemschitz did, so possibly passed the same clock in the same corner shop.
That would mean he reached the yard a minute or two after 12:45, ....all this assumes that the clock was even correct.
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I doubt she was doing that.

"No, not tonight, some other night"
That comment can be just as easy applied to the courting couple. They were stood at the same corner about the same time.
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I think this knocking to the ground has been exaggerated. A simple explanation could be that Stride took hold of a potential client who clearly didnt want to know and pushed her away knocking her to the ground.

But of course simple and plausible explanations are no what ripper researchers seek.

There are no forensics to match so why keep mentioning them

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Hello Trevor,

I agree with you completely on this one. The whole B.S. man/Stride encounter basically takes its significance from the fact that she was found dead shortly after and not really on what took place according to Schwartz. It's interesting that people like to throw around terms like "attack" and "brutal assault" but when you ask them what the penalty would most likely be if B.S. man were arrested solely on what Schwartz said he saw they all seem to be agree that it would be basically don't do it again or a small fine. We simply have no way of knowing what the B.S. man's intent was.

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Hello Trevor. Thanks.

Well, I have read some of their personal stories.

Know of any with money?

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Whenever you post this Lynn, I always have to respond that she was not a $500 a night Vegas call girl. If they could afford a drink or food then surely they could have afforded her services.

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The last person seen assaulting anyone as close to where the body was found only minutes before it is found is defacto prime suspect. Not even a person of interest. If the forensics match then they are in a lot of difficulty. If not, they are still in a lot of difficulty unless said forensics can actually falsify that they did it. Good alibis can do it also.

I think Stride's movements are very well known that night due to the number of people there, both before and after, it seems unlikely JtR could have attacked Stride without someone taking notice.

If the forensics pointed away from BSman as some people claim, then he would have nothing to fear. Yet we know in the real world that BSman would do his best to make sure nobody would connect him to this, ever, because of what it naturally infers.
Hello Batman,

Are you suggesting that the B.S. man went on to kill Liz after being seen which is of course a hanging offense so that she wouldn't identify him as the man who pushed her to the ground which is probably a don't do it again offense? That is all he is guilty of at that point when Schwartz vacates the scene.

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