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Old 08-19-2017, 06:33 AM
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If there was they would have turned up before now. But even the pilfered documents from the archives which are still in the hands of ripperologists may turn up in later years, but there is no smoking guns contained in them.

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Trevor, is it true that you accessed classified documents that listed several hitherto unknown suspects? Have you never thought to publish these findings?
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Trevor, is it true that you accessed classified documents that listed several hitherto unknown suspects? Have you never thought to publish these findings?
Hi Harry
I did try to get made public a special branch register which the contents had not been made public. However that failed, but the police did release to me details of a number of entries which related to the Ripper investigation, and contained the names of persons named as suspects some of which had not been named before. However I do not believe these to have been other than persons of interest.

One of the entries related to Chief Insp Littlechild remember he later mentions Tumblety as a likely suspect .In the register his entry reads
“Suspect O`Brien & The Whitechapel Murders” So it seems that officers were not aversed to bandying names of suspects about.

As to who O`Brien is or was, it is unknown especially as it is a common irish name.

The full extent of this venture and its results can be found in my book
Jack the Ripper- The Real truth

http://www.trevormarriott.co.uk/jack-ripper-real-truth/
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Old 08-19-2017, 08:06 AM
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I do however agree that nothing is likely to turn up
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Dunno,have a look at Henry Gawen Sutton.

Walked past Dr Phillips' house on his way to and from work most days and nights along Hanbury/Spital Square. London Hospital to Finsbury Square.
They were peers.
Certainly would have known of each other.

Sutton had the skills.
Also probably carrying chalk at the start of term.
Being renowned for his sense of touch,the dark would not have been an insurmountable problem.

There are links to all 5 CVs.
Have a look through my posts.

Odd the the return of RL Stevenson's novella as a stage play preceded the murders.
Sir William Gull and Sutton,circa mid 1860s onwards,seem to be the models for Jekyll and Hyde.
There are many clues in that 1885 novella. Gawen Carew says Hi,Simon.
Hyde had two dwellings.One seemed to have access to Jekyll's,the other in "Queer Street".

http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/snow/1859...ldings1870.gif

If that Square was really Mitre Square,much changes.

Notice how quickly Sir Henry Smith arrived at that scene.
RL Stevenson's cousin.
RLS had a chronic chest disease.
Sutton a likely topic of conversation for various reasons.

Just like Abberline at Nichols' inquest.
He wasn't much good at this caper,see Cleveland Street Scandal.
More suited to Monte Carlo,if you get my drift.

And what of the statement that Mr Sutton, the senior surgeon, pledged his reputation that the kidney had been placed in spirits within hours of its removal from Eddowes' tortured remains? Henry Sutton was a senior surgeon at the London Hospital in 1888. He is not, however, mentioned in any of the surviving contemporary accounts of the investigation of the Lusk Kidney. Neither in any writings or remarks of Dr Brown B who supposedly asked to meet him in consultation B not by Swanson or McWilliams, nor even by the Gentlemen of the Press. We find Dr Sutton and his confident opinion only in the pages of Major Smith's memoirs. If he made any report on the kidney, it has not been found. Perhaps there was such a report; perhaps, too, his participation was a bit of dramatic license on the part of Smith. We do not know. We will not know unless independent proof of Sutton's pronouncements turns up, and until then he and Major Smith must be set aside.


http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread.php?t=1699&page=2

http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread.php?t=10974

Son in law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Savage_(physician)

Fellow Vestry Board member
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas..._(toxicologist)

Edward Hyde ......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward...l_of_Clarendon

Dr Jekyll ...... Henry G Kill

It's past 1 am and my "quick post got lost",bit like my footy team
Well into my third can of Heineken,so I'll sign off.

PS. Sutton's Collected Works are free on Internet Archive.
His favourite philosopher,Baruch Spinoza,on Gutenberg.
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Old 08-19-2017, 08:39 AM
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Hi Harry
I did try to get made public a special branch register which the contents had not been made public. However that failed, but the police did release to me details of a number of entries which related to the Ripper investigation, and contained the names of persons named as suspects some of which had not been named before. However I do not believe these to have been other than persons of interest.

One of the entries related to Chief Insp Littlechild remember he later mentions Tumblety as a likely suspect .In the register his entry reads
“Suspect O`Brien & The Whitechapel Murders” So it seems that officers were not aversed to bandying names of suspects about.

As to who O`Brien is or was, it is unknown especially as it is a common irish name.

The full extent of this venture and its results can be found in my book
Jack the Ripper- The Real truth

http://www.trevormarriott.co.uk/jack-ripper-real-truth/
Thanks, Trev.

Does that mean the names of those POIs are included in your book?
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Thanks, Trev.

Does that mean the names of those POIs are included in your book?
Yes

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Is your latest book only available in Kindle form?
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Following on from a discussion I had with a colleague a couple of weeks ago, what evidence would you need to be convinced that 'Suspect X' was indeed the person (or persons) known as Jack The Ripper?

As a follow on question, do any of you believe that any of the missing material/files/evidence is ever likely to resurface?
I don't think there's much we can find, at this point, to identity the man, definitively. There may be a chance, a very small one, that police files, fragments or otherwise, may be found. However, from what we know, based on what the men in charge said in various venues, there was no consensus. Thus, the police probably weren't very much the wiser than we are today. So, in my view, the ship - as they say - has sailed.
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Is your latest book only available in Kindle form?
Yes at this time

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The diary of a Blackheath cricketer....

"Monty behaved oddly all through the late summer of '88
I remember asking him to field at fine leg....
"I love a fine leg " he replied then went on to say something about "Fava beans"

He also ran in for a seventh ball in one game....The umpire said...
"Its over Monty"
Monty broke down crying saying "Thank god its been weighing on my mi....."
Then suddenly realised ..snickered and walked to long on...................
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Following on from a discussion I had with a colleague a couple of weeks ago, what evidence would you need to be convinced that 'Suspect X' was indeed the person (or persons) known as Jack The Ripper?

As a follow on question, do any of you believe that any of the missing material/files/evidence is ever likely to resurface?
To my mind Bury is the most obvious suspect. I hope some of the missing material/files/evidence does resurface but it won't make much difference people are too jaded.
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