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  • #46
    Originally posted by Ally View Post
    . It is their life to do with or not do with as they choose.
    Ally,
    While I see Archaic's point and would likely also be compelled to call for help, I actually totally agree with you that the individual has the right to make that call for him/herself.

    curious

    oops, pun not intended.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Robert View Post
      Tracy, I'll simply be too ill to go.
      Are you planning to call in an excuse?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
        I am not the typical knee-jerk religion hater but this is where "religion" (or an aspect of it) is wrong IMHO.
        Actually, it has been illegal in Tennessee since the 1940s (47, I think), but not normally enforced unless there is a death, or so I read somewhere this morning.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by curious View Post
          Interesting. I live in mountainous East Tennessee and it is my perception that such a thing is a rare occurrence among a very tiny percentage of the population.

          curious
          It is rare. My perception is completely skewed because I worked for a cult investigator for a couple of years. And in truth, I never ran into it in Tennessee. But we did interviews and collected data from snake handlers in Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, North Carolina, Arkansas and West Virginia. But these "churches" were cults, by the legal definition of using religion or religious practices that results in or facilitates criminal activity. Evidently there were other genuine churches out there that we didn't bother with because they did not fit that definition. Which still isn't to say that it is somehow common. But when you have a bunch of these people within driving distance, you tend to feel a bit.. surrounded. And West Tennessee has the highest concentration of cults in the nation. Three, possibly four within a 150 mile radius. Though not snake handlers.
          Though one of our guys did have the unique experience of working on a case here in town where a couple put an insane number of tarantulas in a blender and smeared it all over themselves (for reasons we were never really clear on, but it appeared to be some idiotic interpretation of a native amercian rite), went to go have sex in the woods, and started itching so badly that they literally scratched themselves bloody and had to spend a couple of days in the hospital. So while it takes all kinds, sometimes you get the impression that evolution is not necessarily a passive act, but sometimes an avenging force out to rid the species of the inherently flawed members. Sort of like an angel of death wearing Darwin's face.
          The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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          • #50
            Hi, Errata,
            Thanks for clearing that up.

            Appreciate it.

            curious

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Errata View Post
              And West Tennessee has the highest concentration of cults in the nation. Three, possibly four within a 150 mile radius. Though not snake handlers.
              Though one of our guys did have the unique experience of working on a case here in town where a couple put an insane number of tarantulas in a blender and smeared it all over themselves (for reasons we were never really clear on, but it appeared to be some idiotic interpretation of a native amercian rite), went to go have sex in the woods, and started itching so badly that they literally scratched themselves bloody and had to spend a couple of days in the hospital.
              This got me wondering: what would a sane number of tarantulas have been?

              And did that first sentence have a typo in it?

              Love,

              Caz
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              "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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              • #52
                Originally posted by curious View Post
                Hi, Errata,
                Thanks for clearing that up.

                Appreciate it.

                curious
                You mean Errata cleared up all that tarantula mess? Rather her than me!

                Love,

                Caz
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                "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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                • #53
                  Though one of our guys did have the unique experience of working on a case here in town where a couple put an insane number of tarantulas in a blender and smeared it all over themselves (for reasons we were never really clear on, but it appeared to be some idiotic interpretation of a native amercian rite), went to go have sex in the woods, and started itching so badly that they literally scratched themselves bloody and had to spend a couple of days in the hospital.
                  I'm getting far too old for "sex in the woods" ..but Hey ?! TARANTULAS ???!!!!
                  http://youtu.be/GcBr3rosvNQ

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by caz View Post
                    This got me wondering: what would a sane number of tarantulas have been?

                    And did that first sentence have a typo in it?

                    Love,

                    Caz
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                    Less than three. For all I know there is a desert dwelling people out there who use tarantulas as part of some ritual or another, and who am I to say they're wrong. After all, bees maggots and leeches have made their way back into modern medicine. But this couple used enough to rack up so many animal cruelty charges that they had to just round it out to 100 counts. and that is a very low estimate.

                    And no, the first sentence did not have a typo. Tennessee is an odd state. We are divided into Central, East and West, and each section is completely different. Most states tend to be homogenous. We really aren't. Out of state people say "Hey I can't believe you guys did this or that" and we say "that wasn't us. That was West Tennessee." or East, or Central. The West Memphis Three was a perfect example. There was a perception that Tennesseans were afraid of people with alternate religions, and were persecuting them. And not that it's never happened, but on a social level. Not a legal persecution. But that wasn't us. That was Arkansas, and not even all of Arkansas, just the delta part. Anyway, we have a weird relationship here in Tennessee. We are denying responsibility for the actions of other regions, but still feel possessive enough of the other regions to sort of get pissed off when something happens that makes the rest of us look bad. If we were given the option to split into three states, I honestly think we'd go for it.
                    The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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                    • #55
                      [QUOTE]
                      Originally posted by Errata View Post
                      Less than three. For all I know there is a desert dwelling people out there who use tarantulas as part of some ritual or another, and who am I to say they're wrong
                      .

                      On a bad day, I wouldn't hesitate.
                      http://youtu.be/GcBr3rosvNQ

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Errata View Post
                        If we were given the option to split into three states, I honestly think we'd go for it.
                        Maybe. Don't want the folks in the other 2 grand divisions ruining our reputation.

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                        • #57
                          Of course good old Victor Borge would have called it Elevenessee anyway...

                          Dave

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                          • #58
                            Daft Cults

                            Originally posted by Errata View Post
                            Less than three. For all I know there is a desert dwelling people out there who use tarantulas as part of some ritual or another, and who am I to say they're wrong. After all, bees maggots and leeches have made their way back into modern medicine. But this couple used enough to rack up so many animal cruelty charges that they had to just round it out to 100 counts. and that is a very low estimate.

                            And no, the first sentence did not have a typo. Tennessee is an odd state. We are divided into Central, East and West, and each section is completely different. Most states tend to be homogenous. We really aren't. Out of state people say "Hey I can't believe you guys did this or that" and we say "that wasn't us. That was West Tennessee." or East, or Central. The West Memphis Three was a perfect example. There was a perception that Tennesseans were afraid of people with alternate religions, and were persecuting them. And not that it's never happened, but on a social level. Not a legal persecution. But that wasn't us. That was Arkansas, and not even all of Arkansas, just the delta part. Anyway, we have a weird relationship here in Tennessee. We are denying responsibility for the actions of other regions, but still feel possessive enough of the other regions to sort of get pissed off when something happens that makes the rest of us look bad. If we were given the option to split into three states, I honestly think we'd go for it.
                            And some fell on stoney ground...

                            Love,

                            Caz
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by caz View Post
                              And some fell on stoney ground...

                              Love,

                              Caz
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                              Often. Depends on how much sleep I get. I tend towards being profoundly literal on my off days. It makes me something of an iffy target.
                              The early bird might get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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