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Thank you, Simon!

I count 9(?) chimneys, would this mean that there are 9 rooms inside of No. 26? And, with the chimneys being along that far wall in the photo, does that indicate all of the rooms were situated along that far wall too? (Wondering if I have to rethink the placement of the staircase)
The Goad map shows that the chimneys from no.26 are in a wall shared with no.25, so as Dave says one or more of the chimney pots could be from there. No.25 is shown as a stable with dwelling above.
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In the fab high def image we can clearly see the court is derelict and in the process of being demolished. Why are the chimney pots smoking?
Matters mentions a "dreadful-looking slattern" still living there when he took his photo, who swore at him.
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Still need an answer on this one:

What are these holes?

I can match the window marked with a yellow arrow with a contemporary sketch but the red arrowed 'opening' is not on any sketches of MC




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Still need an answer on this one:

What are these holes?

I can match the window marked with a yellow arrow with a contemporary sketch but the red arrowed 'opening' is not on any sketches of MC




The red arrowed opening is Mrs Prater`s cat flap.
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Still need an answer on this one:

What are these holes?

I can match the window marked with a yellow arrow with a contemporary sketch but the red arrowed 'opening' is not on any sketches of MC




Could the red opening be hidden by (or even covered over completely) by the sloping 'lean to' roof of No. 26, whereas the window marked with a yellow line belongs to No 27, is over the passage and the extension in that area under the window on #27 has a flat roof, level with the bottom of the window? The roof of the extension in the demolition photograph looks to e minus roof tiles and so the roof is slightly lower than it would have been, showing the opening?
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I'd agree with that, Debra, and my model works with that yellow arrowed window. But why is that 'window' (red arrow) even there? does that signify that rooms 19 and 13 (the lean-to) were added AFTER the main Dorset street house was built?


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Could the red opening be hidden by (or even covered over completely) by the sloping 'lean to' roof of No. 26, whereas the window marked with a yellow line belongs to No 27, is over the passage and the extension in that area under the window on #27 has a flat roof, level with the bottom of the window? The roof of the extension in the demolition photograph looks to e minus roof tiles and so the roof is slightly lower than it would have been, showing the opening?
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I'd agree with that, Debra, and my model works with that yellow arrowed window. But why is that 'window' (red arrow) even there? does that signify that rooms 19 and 13 (the lean-to) were added AFTER the main Dorset street house was built?
I had been contemplating the same thing, that the lean too was added later.
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And would this mean that IF the lean-to was added later, then so was the arch extension that hovers over Mary's door? And IF these were added after the main house then what about the court cottages seeing as the left cottages are a continuation of the extra archway that is above the back window to 27's shop?

Those two windows (red/yellow arrowed) are curious indeed! Especially the one obscured by the lean-to roof.



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And would this mean that IF the lean-to was added later, then so was the arch extension that hovers over Mary's door? And IF these were added after the main house then what about the court cottages seeing as the left cottages are a continuation of the extra archway that is above the back window to 27's shop?

Those two windows (red/yellow arrowed) are curious indeed! Especially the one obscured by the lean-to roof.
Part of the reason Im still only at the contemplating stage.
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I'd agree with that, Debra, and my model works with that yellow arrowed window. But why is that 'window' (red arrow) even there? does that signify that rooms 19 and 13 (the lean-to) were added AFTER the main Dorset street house was built?
That would be my guess. The earlier Dorset St house has a later back extension to accommodate a change in taste, fashion, use by the previous owners etc.
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