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Old 03-23-2008, 03:32 AM
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IMDb lists a movie due out this year entitled Jack aka Jack the Stripper. Does anyone know anything about this film? There was a movie called Jack the Stripper put out on the early 90s but it was a porno had nothing to do with the case. I wonder if this new film might and if so if it's a documentary, a true-crime or what.
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Old 04-24-2008, 01:15 PM
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Hello Case Book, Thank you for my Birthday greeting

I thought I'd pop past here as i heard rummer that a POD Cast was taking place on the Stripper murders...and a new book..God knows we need one.

So just to answer a few questions and try and update the position from last casebook..though I still havn't found my notes, working from maginalia.

Stan..there could be a film, certainly when i spoke to Seabrooke a couple of years ago it was being discussed.

Re: Suspects..

McCormacks 'Big John' suspect is one: 45 year old Scot named Mungo Ireland of 132 Tildesley Road, Putney.

Sucide Note Read: I cant stick it any longer. It may be my fault but not all of it. I'm sorry Harry is a burden to you. Give my love to the kid. Farewell, jock. PS. to save you and the police looking for me I'll be in the garage.

Seabrook claims the murders were commited by a car sales who worked with my dad at Cotinental Cars, Leigh-on-sea. Research lead me to beleive his name, not mentioned in 'Jack of Jumps' book was 'Cushway'. And Cushway is still alive and well to my knowledge and living in Chingford.

Tommy Butlers name may have been mentioned because of another curious fact about the case. All the bodies were left in different police pattrol areas suggesting the killer had some knowledge of police patrol routes.

Grey Hunter also appeared on the old forum and stated that the police new the identity of the Stripper which was none of the above suspects but then refused to name his suspect.

I think we can forget Freddie Mills. My money is still on Mungo Ireland, although Seabrook claims that he was away in Scotland when O'Hara was murdered. I'd like to see Jocks army records, that McCormack mentions in his book.

Well there it is roughly were we gotten to...have i missed the POD cast?

Thanks again casebook for birthday wish

Yours Jeff

PS. Is this the same suspect that went to Australia... 'Grey old boy?'
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These deals where the police say they "know who the killer really was" are usually, if not always, just a big CYA.
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Old 04-25-2008, 02:21 AM
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True Stan

But as in 1888...the murders did stop..and serial killers dont just stop without reason.

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Hi Jeff,

The murders stopping is an argument to that end but they do sometimes stop for less permanent reasons like fear of capture.
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Old 04-25-2008, 10:07 AM
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David Seabrooke may well believe that Jack the Stripper is alive and well and playing bingo in Chingford.

But personally i believe he committed suicide.

I'm not certain if this perception of the police is a cross atlantic thing?

However I think its often excepted over here that the police know more about a crime than they are aloud to produce in court. What is admissable evidence etc?

This sought of creates problems, remember they are under pressure to bring convictions, thats they're job. The Jill Dando case is a good point in hand.

I'd say that on the whole they know more than we do. Grey Hunters comments that police talk among themselves, off the record, and have their own rumours bares out my experience (knowing a few coppers).

Certainly I believe Swanson new more than we have on record.

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Old 04-26-2008, 02:40 PM
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Hi Jeff,

Maybe it is Ireland but I guess I'm more of a skeptic when it comes to believing anything the police say especially when they don't have the guts to give the name out fair and square. The police "knew" that Arthur Allen was the The Zodiac too except later DNA testing proved that he wasn't.
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Old 04-29-2008, 01:56 PM
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Ok Stan

i'm certainly not going to argue the police always get it right...

But dont you find it rather curious the the third biggest British serial killer of the last century is almost forgotten..as are his victims?

Only three books really cover the subject and none do it well.

And surely if Stewart Evans is correct then Ireland wasn't the police suspect?

Ireland was a front. Seabrooke claims that Ireland couldn't have killed O'Hara as he was in Scotland at the time. I just said Ireland seemed a more reasonable choice than Seabrookes suspect Cushway.

I also find it strange that Seabrooke doesn't mention the photographic equipment taken from a flat in Victoria...I was never able to track down any more information on this..but believe the production of 16mm films may have linked a number of the victims.

Also when I was at the electrical substation 'Heron industrial estate' where the bodies were stored, I noted that the log book dating back to the 1950's was still in there...surely it must contain the name of the murderer? or is that to obvious?

Another thing that has always bothered me is the map of the East end in Hannah Tailfords inquest papers? Why a map of the East end? surely she worked the west side? hat was her connection to Brick lane? (purple hearts?).

Anyway I just dont think anyone has really tackled this case at all..most of the books leave more questions than answers.

Jeff

PS are the rumours of a Jack the Stripper POD cast true??
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Jeff, when I next see you I'm happy to explain all I know, but not on a public forum.
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Understood...I still think the subject needs covering by a decent author?
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