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Old 09-27-2014, 04:43 PM
sahlandilbaz sahlandilbaz is offline
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I was reading m.j. Trow's the ripper hunter.
He says had time to examine abberline's own press cuttings about his old cases.
One of the given cases is Elizabeth "fanny" lazarus' unsolved murder.
Abberline's one of two murder cases in cuttings.
If wanted i could give details, but in short first and probably the most important witness was non other than Joseph Barnett.
I dont know if it is the same man but he listed as cigar maker of 9 old castle street.
Little kid drowned, 20 years old joseph, not solved case...

What do you think?
Im writing this as i now still reading the book, but writer seem not to detect barnett name.
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Old 09-27-2014, 07:03 PM
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It's hard to say. Barnett didn't get his fish porters licence until July 1st, and the murder was late May/early June if I recall correctly, so occupation is inconclusive. I'll check the census and see if I can find if the witness was still a cigar maker in 1881.
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Old 09-27-2014, 08:13 PM
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It's a different Joseph Barnett, going by the age. (This is from the 1871 census, Old Castle Street)

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Laurence Alison, in their 2005 book, "Forensic Psychologists Casebook: Psychological profiling and criminal investigation", has also noted the coincidence of the names, but didn't follow up the matter at the time.
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Old 09-28-2014, 04:21 PM
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I see another barnett on Whitechapel Vigilance Committee member list. Can you help with this too?
Thank you for your help.
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Old 09-28-2014, 08:59 PM
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I'll need a little more detail than that, but I'll see what I can do.

I would, however, suspect if it was the Millers Court Barnett, it would have been commented on that he was in the Vigilance Committee. Also Barnet, and variations, was a fairly common name chosen by Jewish immigrants when Anglicising, and the Vigilance Committee had a large Jewish migrant component.
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Old 10-16-2014, 02:53 AM
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I wish newbies would take time to read posts before they jump in about things. We know all about Joe Barnett, his parents , his siblings and virtually all his addresses from when he was born.1858 Hairbrain Court, His father,John was a docker. After his fathers death, his mother Catherine moved in with Thos Allman, a docker[ later marrying him before she died] and Joe lived with his elder siblings.
Look at the other Barnett posts ' the real Joe Barnett to get the addresses. the kent Joe is wrong, just a speculation but everything else is right.
He came from a very close knit family who all lived fairly close to each other.
and kept in touch.
Have a read of Bruce Paley's book. I don't agree with his thesis that Joe was the killer but he did find out a lot of info on the Barnett family, as did later Sally and Chris Scott.

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Old 10-19-2014, 09:53 AM
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I was thinking about the so called imbecil son of james walker during chapman.
Im having hard time accessing this forum from turkey,istanbul most of the time.
Ive tried to look in to him more and he seems to move australia and have a son. Isnt it interesting for an imbecil?
His name is alfred john walker ,and on the records it is sometimes called wakfer
Right age, interesting psychology,witnessed weird noises and conversations made me look in to this people.
Dont get mad because i cant find anywhere this person as a suspect.
Can you guys give him another look,cmy access is very limited
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