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If, as it seems, Joseph James DeAngelo is the EAR/ONS, then it seems that there are no further murders after 1986, at least not of the same type as those perpetrated by the EAR/ONS.
Although it is still early days, it appears we may just have a prime example here of how serial killers CAN stop. Some still have a problem accepting this, so it would be welcome with a prime practical rebuttal à la the EAR/ONS. Hopefully, it can once and for all clear away a number of misconceptions.

I heard a reporter suggesting today that a possible reason for the EAR/ONS stopping his reign of terror could be how the news spread in the mid 1980:s of DNA and how it could reveal identities. Perhaps so.

It will be interesting to see how things develop. I have grown tired of armchair sleuths telling me that a serial killer will never stop.
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bingo. its one of the biggest myths in criminology along with they don't change MO/sig.

they do stop on there own. Kemper just off the top of my head.

if the GSK did stop on his own it might have to do with aging, and or having daughters to take care of.
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bingo. its one of the biggest myths in criminology along with they don't change MO/sig.

they do stop on there own. Kemper just off the top of my head.
Kemper's a bit of a special case, in that he gave himself up within hours of killing his mother, for whose death he would have been the prime suspect. I'm sure they exist, but there can't be too many serial killers out there who commit matricide.
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Not matricide, no - but I think we have seen the first of a significant number of apprehensions of serial killers based on DNA, long after their active periods. I have always thought that there will be many of them out there who simply either burnt out or found it too risky to continue killing, and who did what clever killers do - leave the scene of the crime and blend in with the crowd.
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Well, it'll be interesting to find out, Fish, that's for sure.
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Kemper's a bit of a special case, in that he gave himself up within hours of killing his mother, for whose death he would have been the prime suspect. I'm sure they exist, but there can't be too many serial killers out there who commit matricide.
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Its rare that serial killers kill members of there own family but it happens (homolka killed her own sister) and I agree its rare they stop on there own but they do.

kemper may or may not have been a prime suspect, but it definitely dosnt preclude he couldnt have gotten away with it. plus he said he turned himself in because he was tired of it, it was becoming too much, something along those lines.

but i see your point. neverthe less he stopped on his own.
and apparently so did the GSK. and any uncaught serial killer coud have also, but i admit-its rare.
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Well, it'll be interesting to find out, Fish, that's for sure.
I think if we ever find out it will probably have to do with his aging, having daughters, trying to raise them (on his own apparently) while working, and or finally getting some empathy because he now has daughters?

along with this several victims stated during his ransacking/rapes they could hear him sobbing and some said they heard him say something like mommy I don't want to do this anymore. perhaps he was struggling with this dark side and was finally able to overcome it?
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along with this several victims stated during his ransacking/rapes they could hear him sobbing and some said they heard him say something like mommy I don't want to do this anymore. perhaps he was struggling with this dark side and was finally able to overcome it?
At the time, one victim was adamant he was wailing 'Bonnie', not 'Mommy'.

'Turns out this man was engaged to a woman named Bonnie in the '70s.
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