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Hello Sam,

First of all props on using a word like"philosemitic". Stuff like that hasn't been seen since Lynn Cates was a regular poster (who I hope returns some day).

You might have an argument for a secondary interpretation but that seems to be interpreting the message in a vacuum. If seen in the light of being part of a "graffiti war" back and forth between two camps (Jews and non-Jews) and relating to other graffiti in the neighborhood then I don't think a pro-Jewish interpretation is so far fetched.

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Suspect Jack was philosemitic,Judeophilic even.

The Juwes are not to blame!

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Suspect Jack was philosemitic,Judeophilic even.

The Juwes are not to blame!

Crikey!
Ok. Now I feel like I graduated from grade school only with the help of political influence. Sheesh! I am going to go look up some of dem big woids.

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In a report op 6 November 1888, superintendent Thomas Arnold wrote that the writing was "on the wall of the entrance to some dwellings. It was in such a position that it would have been rubbed by the shoulders of persons passing in & out of the Building."
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I don't think a pro-Jewish interpretation is so far fetched.
I wouldn't say the philosemitic interpretation is far-fetched at all, CD, just a "secondary" reading, with the anti-semitic reading being the most obvious one.
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Maybe JTR was also in the Police station when Eddowes was brought in and heard her give the name Nothing.
Rather unlikely, to say the least. Again, might the police not have been interested in tracking this - as yet unmentioned - other person down?.
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Alternatively, he could have asked her her name when he met her a dbeen also told Nothing.
More likely she'd have given another made-up, but realistic, name, like "Mary Ann Kelly", for example. Besides, in this scenario, how could he have known that her telling him that her name was "Nothing" would have had any significance to the police, such that he felt compelled to include it in his chalked message?

BTW, I'm still not convinced that what went into Bayfield's ledger was merely the word "Nothing", i.e. that she gave no answer, but that when this was read out at the inquest, it was misunderstood by journalists as if she'd actually said the word herself.
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Ok. Pretty much the only word I haven't had to look up in this whole GSG discussion is chalk so I am out of here. Have a good evening all.

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BTW, I'm still not convinced that what went into Bayfield's ledger was merely the word "Nothing", i.e. that she gave no answer, but that when this was read out at the inquest, it was misunderstood by journalists as if she'd actually said the word herself.
I thought that might be a possibility too, Sam. But I've been giing through the inquest reports and so far all have seemed to say she made a positive reply which was "Nothing". By the way, it was PC Robinson who reported this, Byfield reports simply that she was unable to give her name and address when she first arrived at the station.
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She was released 5 hours after being arrested.
At best her blood alcohol level is down by .05%.
Sgt Byfield: It was quite possible for a person to be very drunk at a quarter to nine and sober at one o'clock.
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I thought that might be a possibility too, Sam. But I've been giing through the inquest reports and so far all have seemed to say she made a positive reply which was "Nothing". By the way, it was PC Robinson who reported this, Byfield reports simply that she was unable to give her name and address when she first arrived at the station.
Thanks for the correction, Josh. Mind you, the fact that Byfield reports that she was unable to give her name might add some support to the suggestion that she actually said nothing, as opposed to said "Nothing".
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She and Jack arrive at almost the same time and go inside.
What a stroke of luck on his part! How was he to know that she'd be released at around 1 in the morning?
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