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Old 07-20-2017, 06:14 PM
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So yet another TV episode saying they have the real jack the Ripper. this claim is HH Holmes. Anyone care to comment?
Yeah. It's bullshite.
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I watched first episode last night and already caught one blatant lie. It said HH Holmes acquired a pharmacy from a couple- the Holtons- who then "mysteriously disappeared". That's a bald faced, outright lie...Holmes BOUGHT the pharmacy from the Holtons and they never "disappeared"...both Holtons lived well into the 20th century and died of natural causes.

I don't mean to sound like Donald Trump, but this is the very meaning of "fake news"...when media outlets are more concerned with ratings than facts. Think about it from History Channel's perspective...HH Holmes is one of the most famous serial killers ever. JtR is THE most famous serial killer ever. So linking the two together is bound to be a cable tv ratings extravaganza, right? Nevermind that their "facts" are completely fiction
This is someone else caught up in the mania of believing they have "nailed" the Ripper, despite all of the evidence otherwise, and the History Channel, like so many editors, publishers, directors, TV companies and movie studios going right along with all the supposed revelations. The public deserves better.

Instead, this is what is urgently needed in the study of the Whitechapel Murders --

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Hi All,

The story of Jack the Ripper is the epitome of fake news.

Facts, no fiction?

I recommend a reading of "Deconstructing Jack: The Secret History of the Whitechapel Murders."

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Hi All,

The story of Jack the Ripper is the epitome of fake news.

Facts, no fiction?

I recommend a reading of "Deconstructing Jack: The Secret History of the Whitechapel Murders."

Regards,

Simon
Oh, who wrote that book then?
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Hi Chris,

Modesty forbids.

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According to Erik Larsen in The devil in the White City, Holmes was in Chicago in the summer of 1888 overseeing construction of his "murder castle" He also states Holmes bought the Hoten's (sp) pharmacy or acquired the deed from Mrs. Hoten. the pharmacy was located across the street from the murder castle.
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I watched the third episode last night. Holmes' descendant was talking with Stewart Evans and Stewart was discussing the Batty Street Lodger as though the story had some legitimacy. I was always under the impression that the story was kind of iffy at best. Also, if true, wouldn't the landlady have been a major witness for the police?

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I hadn't been aware of the landlady's story that she saw the Lodger again many years later, which does seem like utter fantasy. Doesn't mean the rest of the story didn't happen, though.

I noticed they liked Tumblety's quack doctor aspect, but ruled him out as being Holmes on account of his age.
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Hello Pat,

It seems to me that if the Lodger story is true then the landlady would have been used as a key witness which as far as I know did not happen.

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I can file this bit of nonsense with Cornwell's disparaging tirade against Sickert.

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