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That's a good point. I wonder if Blotchy could have brought some coal with him.

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Hello GUT,

Yes, that thought did cross my mind. I mean we assume it was beer. Never having started a coal fire I don't know how much you need. Could he have carried it in his pocket? Maybe a few pieces to add to what Mary had on hand?

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Yes, that thought did cross my mind. I mean we assume it was beer. Never having started a coal fire I don't know how much you need. Could he have carried it in his pocket? Maybe a few pieces to add to what Mary had on hand?

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Doubt he'd get much of a fire with what he could carry in his pockets, unless he had big pockets and I guess that's not out of the question.

I know in war years with rationing on miners would bring a Billy full home after a shift.
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Doubt he'd get much of a fire with what he could carry in his pockets, unless he had big pockets and I guess that's not out of the question.

I know in war years with rationing on miners would bring a Billy full home after a shift.
Someone possibly purchased a sack of coal from the merchant at 39 Dorset Street.

A Victorian fireplace like that only holds so much fuel at any time.

Abberline mentioned the room was still warm after the forced entry.
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Someone possibly purchased a sack of coal from the merchant at 39 Dorset Street.

A Victorian fireplace like that only holds so much fuel at any time.

Abberline mentioned the room was still warm after the forced entry.
I wouldn't be surprised if McCarthy bought a sack and sold it by the scoop.

And I agree that the fireplace probably didn't take a lot of coal at a time.
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Sold it by the scoop! Knowing him it would have been 9/10th coal dust and two small lumps. It would have had to have been 1/2 penny's worth. What with food, drink, coal and halfpenny candles, Mary's fee of sixpence a pop would have been gone before they handed it over.
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Sold it by the scoop! Knowing him it would have been 9/10th coal dust and two small lumps. It would have had to have been 1/2 penny's worth. What with food, drink, coal and halfpenny candles, Mary's fee of sixpence a pop would have been gone before they handed it over.
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He seems to have liked a quid
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Really hope Mary did not sell herself for some coal
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Would a candle have been sufficient for the murder? I don,t think it,s out of the question, considering it may have been set on the bedside table
Yes, I think so. At least, according to my experiments in a darkened room with a tealight. Although feeble by modern lighting standards, once your eyes adjust it's surprising how much can be accomplished with just a candle for illumination, although it would have to be positioned/held fairly close to the bed.
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Eddowes was killed in a darkened square where the killer would be presumably under much greater time pressure than in the case of an indoor murder, and yet significantly, if not substantially, more skill was demonstrated than in the case of Kelly.
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