Sweeney Todd?

[Suzi]

Incidentally, Sam, did you happen write the Wikipedia article on the topic? I couldn't help but notice the major similarities between your long post above and my recollection of the highlights of the article on Sweeney Todd as I read it there several weeks back.

Gareth ........you DIDN'T did you???

[Sam Flynn]

Incidentally, Sam, did you happen write the Wikipedia article on the topic?

No, Dan - the post above was entirely my own, after recently reading "The Wonderful and Surprising History of Sweeney Todd", by Robert Mack - a book I can recommend, despite its dire want of better proof reading. Some other doodlings of my own were also included for good measure. I've not read, still less written, the Wikipedia entry.

[Dan Norder]

Oh, well, apologies if I suggested in any way that you presented the thoughts in a Wikipedia article as if they were your own. I'm relieved to know you were merely lifting the content of a book without giving proper credit. Now that that's cleared up...

[Sam Flynn]

Oh, well, apologies if I suggested in any way that you presented the thoughts in a Wikipedia article as if they were your own. I'm relieved to know you were merely lifting the content of a book without giving proper credit. Now that that's cleared up...

I wasn't "lifting the content of a book", thank you very much. Those words are entirely my own, and more than one source was involved. It wasn't a badly written summary either, even if I say so myself - is that what sticks in your craw, after your "plagiarising from Wikipedia" gambit was revealed as a damp squib?

[Suzi]

Well said Sir/Sam!!!!

To be honest the Wiki-Wanderings are always to be taken with a Large amout of Salt I say and as I say(again!)........ as to 'Lifting'....leave that to the Sudbury professionals!!!!!! Hmmmmm

AND always remember..Amateurs plagerise..Professionals steal!!!!!!
Well with ONE memorable exception!!!!!!.......

Didn't the exception prove the rule????


Suz x

[Kelly]

Sam--

With all due respect, your post does read like it came from somewhere else. A nod to your sources, Wikipedia or otherwise, might have dispelled any doubt.

[sdreid]

Is AP back?

[Suzi]

AP's always with us..........like the poor!!!

(Blessim)

[Ally]

Stan,

Yes but not on this thread so far.

All,

If someone presents facts that are readily available in a number of sources, I don't think a "source" is needed. None of what Sam wrote was limited to any one source but are generalized facts. If he had presented any of the "unique" bits from the Mack book, then a source might have been required, but he didn't.

[Sam Flynn]

Sam--

With all due respect, your post does read like it came from somewhere else. A nod to your sources, Wikipedia or otherwise, might have dispelled any doubt.

Kelly, I find your support for Dan most creditable, but his clever-clogs attack on me was frankly mean-spirited. (In actual fact, I had thought of nodding to my sources, but thought it might sound pompous.) Besides, I gave you my understanding of what I've learned, and in entirely my own words - in contradistinction to some of the more flagrant cutters and pasters that have plagued this site on occasion in the past. I like writing, I try to write well, and I like to add value wherever I can. It's too bad when such good intentions are sniped at.

This is a message board, not a reference book, after all, and if we were to cross-refer to every source of info we have, be it on the Ripper case or otherwise, these boards would be somewhat tedious to navigate.

Best wishes.

[Suzi]

'Er where were we???

[Kelly]

Sam,

My post had absolutely 100% nothing to do with Dan, and I resent the implication that it did. My history on these boards shows that I do not jump into his discussions. We are not in the habit of publicly defending one another. I've always been wary of jumping into certain threads, and your response is evidence of why. My opinions and ideas are my own. Period. Please refrain from suggesting that they are otherwise.

I posted again because I was originally involved in this thread. I merely wanted to point out that,to me, your post sounded like it wasn't you. Hats off to you for coming off so well. You've explained yourself adequately now.

[Sam Flynn]

'Er where were we???
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"I dunno, Mrs Lovett. But for your sake I hope it wasn't Melton Mowbray..."

[sdreid]

MMMMMMmmmmm Salma Hayek

Does she play it with a Spanish accent like she did Martha Beck in Lonely Hearts?

[Sam Flynn]

My opinions and ideas are my own. Period. Please refrain from suggesting that they are otherwise.

Point noted, Kelly - and I know that you're an independent thinker, so no probs there.

I merely wanted to point out that,to me, your post sounded like it wasn't you. Hats off to you for coming off so well. You've explained yourself adequately now.

Much appreciated. Thanks