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Old 07-14-2008, 08:33 AM
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Default Location Argues Against Barnett?

One thing that bothers me about the candidacy of Joe Barnett as the murderer of Mary Kelly is this: Why kill Kelly in a location where he is a semi-frequent visitor known by neighbors, witnesses, etc? It would be just as easy to arrange to meet Kelly somewhere else, in some dark alley, under false pretenses, no?

Of course, plenty of husbands murder their wives/lovers in their own dwellings...
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Old 07-14-2008, 10:17 AM
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Of course, plenty of husbands murder their wives/lovers in their own dwellings...
Exactly.....IF Barnett killed her,it didn't have to be premeditated...
Disclaimer: I don't think he did........
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Old 07-14-2008, 12:04 PM
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If Kelly`s death was due to a domestic, the killer just happened to have on him a six very sharp knife.

If this was a domestic that got out of hand no-one heard a quarell between two, or even one person, and the room was in order.

If her murder was premeditated to look like Jack surely she would have been slain in a place other than her room which would draw attention to people in her life.
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Old 07-22-2008, 06:48 PM
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Is it not possible Barnett may have had a knife on him? I can't make up my mind if I like Barnett as a suspect or not but I do think he shouldn't be discounted. Even if he did kill her and it was premeditated then I don't honestly think he would have thought about the location that much - at least that's my view.
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Hi Sarah,
I'm sure he would have thought about the location, since he was well known by the other lodgers and neighbours - don't you think?

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David
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:15 PM
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In some ways though the fact that he was known in the area may have worked in his favour as people would be so used to seeing him they may not have taken it in.
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Hi,
And what about his alibi? (playing cards then sleeping)

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Old 07-23-2008, 08:25 PM
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Hello,
If Barnett killed MJK, then he had a cast iron alibi for the night hours , but that is irrelevant if Kelly was killed after 9am , on the morning of the 9th.
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Old 07-23-2008, 08:34 PM
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Hello Richard,
discussing the problem of location (arguing or not against Barnett's candidacy), it is obvious that if he killed Mary with premeditation (as said in the post which I answered), it was a great risk to do so, because a neighbour could easily recognised him (we know from various witnesses' accounts that Dorset ST dwellers used to come and go at night...and Barnett knew this very well).

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Old 07-23-2008, 09:20 PM
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I am not advocating Barnnet either but I think that it would not be wholly true to say that because he would have been recognised then he didn't do it. We don't notice things we see every day BECAUSE we see them every day. Barnnet may have found it easier to pass by unnoticed because he was seen about so often.
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