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Old 06-02-2015, 04:30 AM
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You'd a think a hoaxer would've signed off the letter as 'Jack the Ripper'. Some might argue that it wasn't necessary, what with the kidney and all, but by know the name was already in circulation and I would expect the writer to exploit it if they were trying to intimidate Lusk or playing a mean prank.
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Old 06-02-2015, 10:03 AM
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If the Ripper never wrote the letter to Lusk, do you buy into the theory it was a prank, possibly by medical students, or some other explanation?

I think it was probably some crook, or a gang of crooks, in the area whose toes were being stepped on by the Vigilance Committee. We know that Lusk thought he was being stalked by someone, and there was that whole scene in the pub where a shady guy wanted to 'ave a word in private. It certainly seems like someone was trying to intimidate him for some reason. Whether that someone was the Ripper or not, who knows, but I'd suspect not.
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I lean toward authentic. I have never bought the usual explanation that it would relatively easy for someone, even in the medical field, to get a hold of a human kidney. Certainly not a gang as you suggest.

And is someone in the medical field going to risk reputation, career or jail time for a hoax? I think not.

Also, as you suggest, I think a hoaxer would have signed off on it as Jack the ripper. the fact that it wasn't lends to it credibility IMHO.

As for the writers Irish bent-seems reasonable to me or at least cockney. I see similarity to the GSG. Shame they rubbed it out-could have compared.
Its also not lost on me That the GSG writing appeared with another piece of evidence from the Eddowes crime scene, or that the GSG seems to be the result of the ripper being disturbed trying to do his thing and Lusk is head of a vigilance committee, also out to disrupt the ripper from doing his thing.

Also, the fact that the lusk letter/kidney references cannibalism, and that post mortem serial killers (like the ripper was) commonly exhibit this characteristic is another factor pointing to its authenticity IMHO.

I give it 60/40 being authentic.
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[quote=Harry D;342360]You'd a think a hoaxer would've signed off the letter as 'Jack the Ripper'. Some might argue that it wasn't necessary, what with the kidney and all, but by know the name was already in circulation and I would expect the writer to exploit it if they were trying to intimidate Lusk or playing a mean prank.[/QUO
In the lusk letter it is quite obvious that the author is trying his best to disguise the handwriting and give the the impression he is some poor uneducated sole why do that ?out of all the communications the lusk letter is the only one that has a chance of being genuine.
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You'd a think a hoaxer would've signed off the letter as 'Jack the Ripper'. Some might argue that it wasn't necessary, what with the kidney and all, but by know the name was already in circulation and I would expect the writer to exploit it if they were trying to intimidate Lusk or playing a mean prank.
The absence of JtR at the bottom is, to me. a big issue.
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The absence of JtR at the bottom is, to me. a big issue.
Agree totally
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As for the writers Irish bent-seems reasonable to me or at least cockney.
The other communication which could have come from the “From hell” author includes what Evans and Skinner describe as “Cockney rhyming slang” (Letters from Hell, p. 60).
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The other communication which could have come from the “From hell” author includes what Evans and Skinner describe as “Cockney rhyming slang” (Letters from Hell, p. 60).
There appear to be similarities.
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The absence of JtR at the bottom is, to me. a big issue.
How so?
We have "an enterprising journalist" who invented the name, and..
an unsigned letter, presumably from the real(?) killer.

Is it necessary for the latter to acknowledge the former?
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How so?
We have "an enterprising journalist" who invented the name, and..
an unsigned letter, presumably from the real(?) killer.

Is it necessary for the latter to acknowledge the former?
No Jon but if it was a hoax I would have expected that the author would use the name that even by that early date had became so closely connected to the killings.
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No Jon but if it was a hoax I would have expected that the author would use the name that even by that early date had became so closely connected to the killings.
What doesn't ring true to me is the offer to send the tool of his trade to Lusk.
That just doesn't sound to me like what a real killer would do.
A hoaxer might write that for shock value, but wouldn't a killer be more attached to his tool of choice?
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