Where the Hell does this photograph cone from?

[Defective Detective]

I did a Google image search for "Kosminski", and found this, of all things:



Though it's probably old-hat to most of the experienced Ripperologists here, I've never seen it before. Is it authentic? Evidently it's elsewhere on the Internet, but not on the Casebook.

A warning: the blog it's linked to is virulently anti-Semitic. Here's a taste:

Ghastly shochetim surgical cut on the “goy” cattle beast body of one of the Jew Kosminsky’s hapless victims, used to facilitate examination of the internal organs of the deceased, just as the internal organs of animals offered to Jehovah God were separated by the priests in Israel in ancient times.

Read at your own risk.

https://firstlightforum.wordpress.com/2015/08/29/jew-aaron-kosminski-now-confirmed-by-dna-as-the-real-jack-the-ripper-of-whitechapel/

[GUT]

Could be Kate, but I think it's a mock up, ever seen it before.

[GUT]

Seems strange that it's anti Semitic but uses a word like "goy"

[Defective Detective]

Could be Kate, but I think it's a mock up, ever seen it before.

It's certainly possible. The inside of the face, where the exposed skull should be, has a vaguely metallic sheen.

It's really good if it is a mock-up, though.

Here's a thread on another forum citing this photo together with the authentic victim photographs. A cursory reverse image search shows that it's definitely a 'known quantity', as it were, with quite a few sites referencing it as Mary Jane Kelly. Unfortunately, none of those sites are reputable Ripper sites.

[curious4]

Apart from the breasts being (seemingly) intact, there is nothing over the right arm (no chemise sleeve/whatever). I know the word "goy" but I'm not jewish.

Best wishes
C4

[Defective Detective]

Apart from the breasts being (seemingly) intact, there is nothing over the right arm (no chemise sleeve/whatever). I know the word "goy" but I'm not jewish.

Best wishes
C4

Eddowes misidentified as Kelly, p'raps?

[Rosella]

But we've all seen those postmortem photos of Eddowes and this photo doesn't resemble them. The face there with those horrific slashes around the mouth and nicks near the eyes, sunken breasts etc look very different to this person. Plus Eddowes' arms are skinny.

[Defective Detective]

But we've all seen those postmortem photos of Eddowes and this photo doesn't resemble them. The face there with those horrific slashes around the mouth and nicks near the eyes, sunken breasts etc look very different to this person. Plus Eddowes' arms are skinny.

Well, ****, you got me then. It's either a mock-up/hoax (a realistic-looking fake, but not one resembling any of the canonicals) or a photo from an unrelated, but Ripper-like, murder.

The face in this picture does remind me a great deal of Kelly's, but obviously it can't be her, given the presence of breasts. Did any of the known noncanonicals have a mutilated face?

[curious4]

Well, ****, you got me then. It's either a mock-up/hoax (a realistic-looking fake, but not one resembling any of the canonicals) or a photo from an unrelated, but Ripper-like, murder.

The face in this picture does remind me a great deal of Kelly's, but obviously it can't be her, given the presence of breasts. Did any of the known noncanonicals have a mutilated face?

Nope

C4

[Pcdunn]

I think it is a more modern picture, possibly from the thirties or forties. Or possibly a model with makeup-- maybe a still from some old film. Doubt it is related to the Ripper.

[Graham]

It certainly doesn't look real to me. Was there ever an explicit and gory Ripper exhibit at Tussaud's or some other wax-works, I wonder?

Graham

[DJA]

Meh. Looks doctored.

[Harry D]

I think it's real, insomuch that it's an actual murder victim, just not a Ripper one. The facial mutilations look Mary Kelly-esque whereas the abdominal wounds are more like those inflicted on Eddowes. I can see how it might be enough to fool casual audiences.

I tried reverse image searching the pic but it only pulled up more of the same Kosminski stuff.

[Errata]

I think it is a more modern picture, possibly from the thirties or forties. Or possibly a model with makeup-- maybe a still from some old film. Doubt it is related to the Ripper.

I have seen photos similar to this from the liberation of concentration camps. Both photos taken by liberating soldiers and photos from film left behind when the Nazi's fled. Bless the little hearts of the guys at first light forum, but their information is usually so corrupted and twisted that they probably posted a picture of a victim of the Nazis and ascribed the act to a Jew. They certainly had no problems with doing that to a victim of the KGB roundups.

If the photo shows up elsewhere on google, then it's a known image that can potentially be identified. If not it's in the private collection of the author of the article. Which is also not uncommon for those boys.

[SirJohnFalstaff]

reverse image search

The only non JtR websites where this picture appears are Russian real gore fans (Oh dear God...) and Asian crime scenes.

Now I need a drink...