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I'm not sure how I've only just noticed, but the Star 11th Sept '88 has a sketch of John Piser, alias Leather Apron!
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Piser said that sketch looked no more like himself than it did the man on the moon.

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Piser said that sketch looked no more like himself than it did the man on the moon.

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Maybe because it might be Piggott? As Chris Phillips once suggested
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Here's an 1888 sketch of LA

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Maybe because it might be Piggott? As Chris Phillips once suggested
Funnily enough, Piggott is mentioned in the paragraph above, so I assumed it was him until I saw the caption (it's pretty close to how I pictured him). So you (and Chris) may well be correct.
It also mentions that it was Piggott who Mrs Fiddymont failed to pick out of a lineup, whereas I'm pretty sure that another article said this was Piser.
I suppose they could both have been in the lineup, but still...
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Funnily enough, Piggott is mentioned in the paragraph above, so I assumed it was him until I saw the caption (it's pretty close to how I pictured him). So you (and Chris) may well be correct.
It also mentions that it was Piggott who Mrs Fiddymont failed to pick out of a lineup, whereas I'm pretty sure that another article said this was Piser.
I suppose they could both have been in the lineup, but still...
To be honest, I hadn't really thought too much about it until Chris mentioned it once and then he got me wondering. IIRC Chris noted that Piser's description didn't feature a beard. That's the only part of his reasoning I remember offhand, but there was more to it.
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To be honest, I hadn't really thought too much about it until Chris mentioned it once and then he got me wondering. IIRC Chris noted that Piser's description didn't feature a beard. That's the only part of his reasoning I remember offhand, but there was more to it.
Yes, I think Piser was described as having two or three days of beard growth, but that looks a lot more to me.
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To be honest, I hadn't really thought too much about it until Chris mentioned it once and then he got me wondering. IIRC Chris noted that Piser's description didn't feature a beard. That's the only part of his reasoning I remember offhand, but there was more to it.
Hi Debs

Yes, that is Piggott in the sketch. I believe the artist saw Piggott in custody and thought it was Pizer.
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Funnily enough, Piggott is mentioned in the paragraph above, so I assumed it was him until I saw the caption (it's pretty close to how I pictured him). So you (and Chris) may well be correct.
It also mentions that it was Piggott who Mrs Fiddymont failed to pick out of a lineup, whereas I'm pretty sure that another article said this was Piser.
I suppose they could both have been in the lineup, but still...
Hi JR

Piggott was in the Fiddymont line up, and Pizer was in the Emanuel Violenia line up.
Both taken into custody on Monday morning, although Pizer was taken to Leman Street, and Piggott to Commercial Street.

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Hi JR

Piggott was in the Fiddymont line up, and Pizer was in the Emanuel Violenia line up.
Both taken into custody on Monday morning, although Pizer was taken to Leman Street, and Piggott to Commercial Street.
Hi Jon,
According to the Morning Advertiser 12th Sept;
"mrs. Fiddyman, the landlay of the house into which it was stated a blood-stained and wild-looking man entered shortly after the hour at which the murder was probably committed on Saturday morning, has been taken to Leman-street station, and on seeing Pizer she expressed herself as quite certain that he was not the man who came into her house on the occasion spoken of."

Do you think the confusion extended to more than the sketch artist?
If Piggott and Piser were at different police stations, it sems less easy to imagine how it may have occurred.
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