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Old 01-12-2018, 03:40 PM
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Hello Herlock,

Trump has routinely treated members of his own party like dirt and has no problem insulting them. Should he get impeached, I think there are those in his party who will not be eager to come to his defense.

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Morons like Trump aren't fit to run a jumble-sale, never mind a country. The very fact that he has been allowed to do so, and that some people are actually pleased with that situation, just shows how low our standards have declined.
What is helping Trump is that Congress is so dysfunctional, with very little bipartisanship any more. So many moderates, Republican and Democrat, who used to work "across the aisle" have either resigned, been defeated, or have died. So what we are left with are the extremists on both sides who refuse to work with the opposite party. So Republicans at this point are desperate for a "win" just as is, of course, this narcissistic President. (There was an excellent comment on Twitter some days ago. Nah, not written by You Know Who, but by a Trump critic who questioned why the Christian right sticks with the man when he doesn't appear to have done one Christian act all during the past year he has been office. I agree!)

One of the most disgusting displays of the past weeks was the one after the Republicans passed their tax bill and they all gathered at the White House to heap praise on this man who is so manifestly unfit to serve as president. Top of the putrid heap was the venerable Senator Orrin Hatch, Republican from Utah and a law enforcement geek friendly with Patricia Cornwell who is close to retiring (and possibly replaced by Mitt Romney). Orrin actually stood there and declared that Trump was the best president he had ever worked with. For shame!

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Is there anyone at all who believes that Haiti, the Banana Republics, or central Africa are great places to live? When you're asked for an example of a nation whose culture you admire and accomplishments you respect, does El Salvador spring right to mind? Can you realistically imagine, even for a moment, someone born in America, Canada, or the UK wishing that they'd had the great good fortune to be born Haitian instead?

The real problem here is that Trump is failing to dress unpleasant truths in the socially-required language of equivocation and blame-deflection. That's pretty much an unforgivable sin these days.
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Hello Herlock,

Trump has routinely treated members of his own party like dirt and has no problem insulting them. Should he get impeached, I think there are those in his party who will not be eager to come to his defense.

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Is there anyone at all who believes that Haiti, the Banana Republics, or central Africa are great places to live? When you're asked for an example of a nation whose culture you admire and accomplishments you respect, does El Salvador spring right to mind? Can you realistically imagine, even for a moment, someone born in America, Canada, or the UK wishing that they'd had the great good fortune to be born Haitian instead?

The real problem here is that Trump is failing to dress unpleasant truths in the socially-required language of equivocation and blame-deflection. That's pretty much an unforgivable sin these days.
One comment I heard in the past few days is that Haitian refugees are often better educated than Americans. Of course that probably isn't so about the poorest Haitians, but it was a statement by someone who knows Haiti and the Haitians who have come to this country. You would think that a "very smart" man like Donald J. Trump might respect that. But no.
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Is there anyone at all who believes that Haiti, the Banana Republics, or central Africa are great places to live? When you're asked for an example of a nation whose culture you admire and accomplishments you respect, does El Salvador spring right to mind? Can you realistically imagine, even for a moment, someone born in America, Canada, or the UK wishing that they'd had the great good fortune to be born Haitian instead?

The real problem here is that Trump is failing to dress unpleasant truths in the socially-required language of equivocation and blame-deflection. That's pretty much an unforgivable sin these days.
Ginger, I'm sorry, but using the phrase "politically correct" to describe civil and respectful language is as one-sided as describing everything Trump says as "racist." We need to stop thinking honesty means using the most crass and obscene words in the English language.

I understand you approve of Mr. Trump, but I think he is undereducated, inexperienced, and not capable of leading a country-- let alone the world.
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Ginger, I'm sorry, but using the phrase "politically correct" to describe civil and respectful language is as one-sided as describing everything Trump says as "racist." We need to stop thinking honesty means using the most crass and obscene words in the English language.

I understand you approve of Mr. Trump, but I think he is undereducated, inexperienced, and not capable of leading a country-- let alone the world.

Well said, Pcdunn!

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I think he is undereducated, inexperienced, and not capable of leading a country-- let alone the world.
He couldn't lead a conga.
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I hate political correctness as much as anyone. I hate the fact that itís almost impossible to discus/debate some issues for fear of offending. That said, I couldnít agree more with Patís post (and Samís). Itís genuinly like a poor movie. How did this childish caveman even get considered for the Presidency? Perhaps we can, at least partially, put it down to the preponderance of faceless, career politicians who spend there entire lives thinking of ever more ingenious ways of avoiding answering questions or giving their OWN opinions? We have them here too. And so when we hear someone that sounds different and thatís outspoken we can tend to equate that with honesty (we even like it if they put their foot in it now and again.) In The UK for eg we have Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage and the legendary Minister For The Eighteenth Century Jacob Rees-Mogg.

Forrest Trump appeared to speak to the downtrodden and poorly treated average American but it appears that the only one he speaks to is his imaginary friend Gerald the pink aardvark.

He has to go........surely
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