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Old 09-13-2010, 05:46 PM
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Hello Dave,

Thank you for this. It is a wounderful idea for a thread.

Great work
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No need to thank me Corey. I think we should have a good understanding of whatever we can with certainty. Dave
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Hello Dave,

Indeed. This is one topic that should be breached. It is very important yes?
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"To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

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I think so Corey. If someone wants to assert commonality among victims, this can be checked against what has been said of their injuries. Equally possible, if new information comes to light about a non canonical that is similar to the M5 group we can evaluate how similar with some certainty. It is also helpful to realize what the Ripper actually did in a context slightly different than words. Dave
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Hello Dave,

I couldn't agree any more.
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Oh, Dave ! I'm sure that's unduly harsh! I bet your brother IS a 'bright bulb'.
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Here is a diagram of a human cervical vertebra. The missing section on the right side of the x ray insert is 1/2 inch, the distance that the vertebral stria were apart. Dave
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Joel..I thought your Post coupled with Dave's images was fascinating..I've got a question. It's not to do with JtR really, neither is it 'jokey' ;I'd like to know the answer..

There are occasions of men strangling THEMSELVES to death, by accident, for sexual pleasure. I dimly remember a politician in Burgess Hill , Sussex,
killing himself by accident with a pair of tights and an orange in the mouth..
how does this work ?

Why isn't there a reflex to stop when you're killing yourself ? I'd have imagined that they would pass out and release the pressure ?
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If I had to guess Ruby I would say that evolutionarily speaking, choking ones self to death has not been such a selective factor as to produce a biological adaptation against it. We are after all discussing a mal adaptive behavior. Dave
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Hi,

I don't know if these are any help, but I've got them here, so you might as well have them! I don't think they're up on the site anywhere else. They are obviously only as accurate as the post mortem reports allow and there has to be some margin of error as some of the reports were a bit vague, but here they are anyway.

I'll start with Polly. The problem with Polly is that there seems to be some doubt as to how extensive the main wound was, as the reports are very sketchy. It can only be best guess. My best guess is that Polly's corsets got in the way of him making a clean cut, and the short cuts are the aborted attempts, where the knife kept hitting the whale bone. But that is just a guess.

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