Casebook: Jack the Ripper - Main
   

Introduction
Victims
Suspects
Witnesses
Ripper Letters
Police Officials
Official Documents
Press Reports
Victorian London
Message Boards
Ripper Media
Authors
Dissertations
Timelines
Games & Diversions
Photo Archive
Ripper Wiki
Casebook Examiner
Ripper Podcast
About the Casebook

Most Recent Posts:
"The Royal Conspiracy": Annie and Alice Crook photographs. - by harry 2 hours ago.
Non-Fiction: Deconstructing Jack by Simon Wood - by David Orsam 6 hours ago.
Audio -- Visual: Exorcist and JTR - by Sam Flynn 8 hours ago.
Audio -- Visual: Exorcist and JTR - by Simon Wood 8 hours ago.
Audio -- Visual: Exorcist and JTR - by Herlock Sholmes 9 hours ago.
Audio -- Visual: Exorcist and JTR - by Sam Flynn 11 hours ago.

Most Popular Threads:
"The Royal Conspiracy": Annie and Alice Crook photographs. - (14 posts)
Audio -- Visual: Exorcist and JTR - (5 posts)
Mary Jane Kelly: Heartburn? - (2 posts)
Non-Fiction: Deconstructing Jack by Simon Wood - (1 posts)

Wiki Updates:
Robert Sagar
Edit: Chris
May 9, 2015, 12:32 am
Online newspaper archives
Edit: Chris
Nov 26, 2014, 10:25 am
Joseph Lawende
Edit: Chris
Mar 9, 2014, 10:12 am
Miscellaneous research resources
Edit: Chris
Feb 13, 2014, 9:28 am
Charles Cross
Edit: John Bennett
Sep 4, 2013, 8:20 pm

Most Recent Blogs:
Mike Covell: A DECADE IN THE MAKING.
February 19, 2016, 11:12 am.
Chris George: RipperCon in Baltimore, April 8-10, 2016
February 10, 2016, 2:55 pm.
Mike Covell: Hull Prison Visit
October 10, 2015, 8:04 am.
Mike Covell: NEW ADVENTURES IN RESEARCH
August 9, 2015, 3:10 am.
Mike Covell: UPDDATES FOR THE PAST 11 MONTHS
November 14, 2014, 10:02 am.
Mike Covell: Mike’s Book Releases
March 17, 2014, 3:18 am.

Go Back   Casebook Forums > Ripper Discussions > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-15-2017, 03:58 PM
Vincenzo Vincenzo is offline
Constable
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Florida, USA.
Posts: 89
Default How common was knife carrying?

I often notice men out and about where I live (USA) with a pocket knife clipped to their jeans or clipped in their pocket. I carry a small folding Kershaw knife myself.

Was it common for people to carry knives on their person day to day in JtR's era? Was there a law concerning this? This really has nothing to do with the case in particular, just something I am curious about. I did not know where else to post this.
__________________
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-15-2017, 08:29 PM
Premium Member
SirJohnFalstaff SirJohnFalstaff is offline
Premium Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Abzurdistan or Canada, depends
Posts: 559
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincenzo View Post
I often notice men out and about where I live (USA) with a pocket knife clipped to their jeans or clipped in their pocket. I carry a small folding Kershaw knife myself.

Was it common for people to carry knives on their person day to day in JtR's era? Was there a law concerning this? This really has nothing to do with the case in particular, just something I am curious about. I did not know where else to post this.
From what I understand, the JTR territory was filled with slaughterhouses, and people working leather, so knives were, I guess, pretty common. Plus the docks full of sailors, who carry blades as a everyday tool. And several markets with butchers.

If you are thinking weapon or poignard, then, maybe with the shadier population, I guess.
__________________
Is it progress when a cannibal uses a fork?
- Stanislaw Jerzy Lee
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-15-2017, 08:33 PM
GUT GUT is offline
Commisioner
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: I come from a land Down Under
Posts: 7,028
Default

Tools of trade for many in the area.
__________________
G U T

There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-15-2017, 08:42 PM
Damaso Marte Damaso Marte is offline
Detective
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 448
Default

As others have said, the kind of big knife probably used by the Ripper(s) was probably carried by tradesmen. Knives carried for self-defense or for removing extra bits of leather from your shoes were probably much smaller.
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-16-2017, 07:41 PM
Scott Nelson Scott Nelson is offline
Inspector
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 1,066
Default

This question has been answered many times over throughout the years. There's really no need to regurgitate these sorts of things time after time.

Last edited by Scott Nelson : 04-16-2017 at 07:56 PM.
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-16-2017, 08:57 PM
Ginger Ginger is offline
Detective
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: United States
Posts: 447
Default

Market porters such as John Richardson would have needed a good knife as part of their job.
__________________
- Ginger
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-16-2017, 09:11 PM
GUT GUT is offline
Commisioner
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: I come from a land Down Under
Posts: 7,028
Default

While it wasnt uncommon.

Does it really matter how common it was?

If he was the only bloke in town to carry a knife what difference does it make to the case.
__________________
G U T

There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-17-2017, 01:55 PM
Ginger Ginger is offline
Detective
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: United States
Posts: 447
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GUT View Post
While it wasnt uncommon.

Does it really matter how common it was?

If he was the only bloke in town to carry a knife what difference does it make to the case.
The more one knows about Late Victorian London in general, the better one understands the milieu in which the Ripper operated. The crimes didn't take place in a social vacuum, and the way society reacted is to me at least as interesting as the identity of the murderer. Besides which, it's always interesting to know things.
__________________
- Ginger
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-17-2017, 03:09 PM
Sam Flynn Sam Flynn is offline
Casebook Supporter
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Wales
Posts: 7,683
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GUT View Post
If he was the only bloke in town to carry a knife what difference does it make to the case.
If he was the only bloke in town to carry a knife, he was likely responsible for most, if not all, of the Whitechapel Murders - canonical or otherwise. If there were plenty of blokes who carried knives - and there were - then it has a huge bearing on the case.
__________________
Kind regards, Sam Flynn

"Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-18-2017, 01:14 AM
Vincenzo Vincenzo is offline
Constable
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Florida, USA.
Posts: 89
Default

Thanks for the responses. Sorry if this has been asked before, I was just curious about how common it was and wanted to learn a little more about it.
__________________
Quick reply to this message Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.