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Default socialists jews, slumlords and a pub

I'm looking for a pub, that I thought was the Sugar Loaf Pub (Hanbury Street), but I'm having doubts I remember correctly.

The pub is owned by a slumlord, friend with McCarthy. (Cooney? Smith?)
A lot of the patrons were members of the International Worker's Educational Club (Berner Street)

Anyone knows if it is indeed the Sugar Loaf? looking on the London Pub database, none of the owners name ring a bell.

If it's not, do you remember the name, and the location?

Thanks a bunch. Hope you're all well.
(Don't come often, too deep into writing. Third version of the novel, it's the right one.)
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Hi Sir John

Is this what you're looking for?

http://wiki.casebook.org/index.php/C..._Lodging_House

But there's also this :

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...ripper&f=false
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First link, no.
Second one, yes.

Now, why do I think I read somewhere that the pub was owned by a slumlord who would often have a drink there with McCarthy?
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Here's Paul Begg, post#33 :

http://www.jtrforums.com/showthread.php?t=11605&page=4
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Mrs Elizabeth Cooney was licencee of Weavers Arms,17 Hanbury Street,Spitalfields from 1911 to 1927.
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thank you. that's what I'm looking for. My only bug is the fact that I find no trace of Cooney here (link)

http://pubshistory.com/LondonPubs/Mi...ugarLoaf.shtml
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Maybe Cooney used front people, for his own reasons.
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Maybe Cooney used front people, for his own reasons.
Yeah. Maybe.
I wonder how they found him, then.

Anyway, thanks Robert.
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I have researched the Cooneys and the Marie Lloyd connection. And have written an article about it. Tom Wescott is looking at it at the moment, its too long to go on a forum.

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I have researched the Cooneys and the Marie Lloyd connection. And have written an article about it. Tom Wescott is looking at it at the moment, its too long to go on a forum.

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Yes! I think Tom mentioned something about it in his Bank Holiday Murder book. Thanks. I will look at it again.
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