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Old 12-19-2016, 01:03 PM
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See the building labelled 'P.O' on this map.
Yes David, that map identifies the later location - above the 'e' in Aldgate.
The Post Office location at 19/20 Aldgate is on the corner of Duke & Aldgate - above the 2nd 'a' in Aldgate.
I can't get my Photobucket to work to post the Goad map.
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Wow, thanks everyone!
First off, are Aldgate and High Street two separate addresses, rather than one? I've been assuming they were, but I guess not.

I think the Post Office locations are clear on these two maps, unfortunately I seem to lack the ability to clip and resize them so they can be uploaded.

1887 Goad
http://britishlibrary.georeferencer....2Wal/visualize

1894 ORdnance Survey
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom...layers=163&b=1

The Goad map shows a couple of warehouses near no.2 High Street, and also handy skylights which may have been the means of entry. There seems to be an empty lot at the back, however by 1894 there are a couple of buildings there between Duke St and Hanover Place. If these had just been built in 1888, could they be the empty buildings where the thieves got in?

That's if I understand your post correctly Debs, that the move must have happened sometime in 1888?
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See if this works...

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By Jove, I think you've cracked it!
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The press accounts state that:
- A Warehouse was behind the P.O.
- this warehouse had an address on Duke Street.
- access to the P.O. was gained through a trap door on the roof, not a sky-light.

No.52 Duke St. was directly behind the P.O. it was not a dwelling (D), but a shop (S), and it was empty. So it must have been used for storage - ie; warehouse.
As Debs pointed out, Lewis Myers owned both the P.O. at 19/20 Aldgate, and No. 52 Duke St., behind the P.O. - the empty shop.

The site at No.2 Aldgate High St. has no premises behind it which are on Duke st., so I think the corner premises at 19/20 Aldgate is the Post Office in question that was burgled.
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Wow, thanks everyone!
First off, are Aldgate and High Street two separate addresses, rather than one? I've been assuming they were, but I guess not.

I think the Post Office locations are clear on these two maps, unfortunately I seem to lack the ability to clip and resize them so they can be uploaded.

1887 Goad
http://britishlibrary.georeferencer....2Wal/visualize

1894 ORdnance Survey
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom...layers=163&b=1

The Goad map shows a couple of warehouses near no.2 High Street, and also handy skylights which may have been the means of entry. There seems to be an empty lot at the back, however by 1894 there are a couple of buildings there between Duke St and Hanover Place. If these had just been built in 1888, could they be the empty buildings where the thieves got in?

That's if I understand your post correctly Debs, that the move must have happened sometime in 1888?
Yes, it looks like it may have moved some time in 88 according to the land tax records, Joshua. I don't know exactly when in 1888 though.

The property listed with occupiers Eliza Jones &postmaster general in 1887 and just Eliza Jones in 88 (no mention of the post) was 19/20 Aldgate, as Simon posted. Aldgate High St was a continuation of Aldgate. No. 52 Duke St (empty) was owned by Lewis Harris in 1888 as was No. 19/20 Aldgate.

No 2 Aldgate High St a couple of doors down was not listed as a post office in 87 but was in 88/89.
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The press accounts state that:
- A Warehouse was behind the P.O.
- this warehouse had an address on Duke Street.
- access to the P.O. was gained through a trap door on the roof, not a sky-light.

No.52 Duke St. was directly behind the P.O. it was not a dwelling (D), but a shop (S), and it was empty. So it must have been used for storage - ie; warehouse.
As Debs pointed out, Lewis Myers owned both the P.O. at 19/20 Aldgate, and No. 52 Duke St., behind the P.O. - the empty shop.

The site at No.2 Aldgate High St. has no premises behind it which are on Duke st., so I think the corner premises at 19/20 Aldgate is the Post Office in question that was burgled.
I think you are right, Jon.
The Land Tax Register assesments were for the year 1888, ending 24th March 1889 so the change in address could have been any time up to that date.
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Perhaps it was the predictably easy access to the existing P.O. (ie; this burglary) that persuaded the authorities to relocate the P.O.?
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I think you are right, Jon.
The Land Tax Register assesments were for the year 1888, ending 24th March 1889 so the change in address could have been any time up to that date.
Does that work the other way around? That is, if the original PO isn't listed in the 1888 register, it must have moved by 24th March 1888?
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Perhaps it was the predictably easy access to the existing P.O. (ie; this burglary) that persuaded the authorities to relocate the P.O.?
That's a very good point!
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