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Old 02-21-2018, 06:08 AM
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Try 9 feet. Really.
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Geez! Really?

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Especially in a townhouse like that.

Have a look at the street 'photos of Dorset Street.
If most of those people are 5' tall,9 feet is probably a conservative guess.

13 Miller's Court was over 8',minimum.
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Okay.
Bytheby, the room I'm in now is just shy of 7th hight with the doors at 6'3" although I do live in a cottage with low downstairs ceilings and super high upstairs ones!

My stairs (in my house) are 3ft wide, 8" high x 9" deep. Cottage is OLD over 130 years.

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Especially in a townhouse like that.

Have a look at the street 'photos of Dorset Street.
If most of those people are 5' tall,9 feet is probably a conservative guess.

13 Miller's Court was over 8',minimum.
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Okay.
Bytheby, the room I'm in now is just shy of 7th hight with the doors at 6'3" although I do live in a cottage with low downstairs ceilings and super high upstairs ones!

My stairs (in my house) are 3ft wide, 8" high x 9" deep. Cottage is OLD over 130 years.
Ok Richard, you've sold me.

I would like to book your cottage for the first two weeks in August.

Do you allow dogs?

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Reckon there was a side hallway,as you know.
Suspect the back stairs ran partway across the building,not along it.
Dave.

The most expedient and cost effective way to bring the stairs up through the floor above is to place the stairs so they enter the next level between the main joists.
The main joists at No.26 & 27 ran east-west, with the apex of the house.

This is why we turned the stairs after the mezzanine in the 3D model.

We have an example in the house at 29 Hanbury St. but without the mezzanine.
We see the stairs run along the sidewall of the house, then turn to enter the next level between the joists, as it should be.

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I do understand that.
They are stairs though. Not a biggie as far as actual construction goes.
Current model blocks my hallway
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Was fortunate to work on this refit over a quarter of a century ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryant...ory,_Melbourne
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During the Kate Marshall murder case the floor above ground level is referred to as the first floor at #26 Dorset Street and indicated by the fact Davis Roberts said he went to the landing. No?
There is a thread, Praters Stairs, where we discussed the Kate Marshall case, and the details it provided.
http://forum.casebook.org/showthread...=kate+mitchell
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There is a thread, Praters Stairs, where we discussed the Kate Marshall case, and the details it provided.
http://forum.casebook.org/showthread...=kate+mitchell
Compromises had to be made, not everything is crystal clear.

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Thanks Wick,

My post from a couple of days ago was referring to the use of the wording 1st floor as the floor above ground floor as indicated by David Roberts in the Marshall case. I thought you felt the 1st floor was the ground floor because of the goad map. I think I was mistaken in what you were trying to say in your exchange with Simon. That's all.

I've wracked my brain enough over the layout of #26 Dorset Street. No need to ruin my weekend over it. haha
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