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Old 02-16-2018, 01:28 AM
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Thanks for all the replies
I am going to write the 3D models slate clean and we will begin again with the latest VR model I will release probably this weekend (Feb 17th '18).

I will post a YouTube video to go with it and then we can begin to establish and change things using that single model instead of a multitude of versions I have put out in the past.

Too many versions of 3D models and too many forum threads have clouded my already boggled and confused mind!
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Looking forward to your work, Richard. Sorry that we can't get any closer to the actual design, too many variations in the illustrations and not enough background in the frame in the photos. Still worth the endeavor!

I don't know about the door being where the window is. I can't tell if the yard slopes underneath the window, or if it is just an optical illusion in the photo. If it slopes, it would seems a bad place for a door.

I'm rethinking whether or not Mary's door was part of the original design. Going over the photo with a mikerscope to see if i can see cutwork in the bricks around the door (if, in fact, it was added later). One thing I noticed in all of illustrations is the depiction of a "fanwork" (or arch) of bricks over No. 13's door. I can almost see them in the photo. Now I can't say that this arch of bricks wasnt added along with the door if it was installed at a later date, but that seems like an elaboration on the work needed just to add a door. Also, I'm trying to determine if her doorstep could have been created by cutting out a doorframe in the brick. To me, currently, it looks like the bricks are built around the doorstep, making me condider that the No 13 door may have been part of the original design.
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I've always wondered if the original architect's plan for the building survives in a dusty cupboard somewhere. Has anyone checked at the London Metropolitan Archive to see if they hold anything there?
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That would be handy and it would put a lot of theories and [my] guesswork to bed!

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On Goad's Plan No. 29,28 & 27 (MaCathy's) is described as being 3.5 floors. What is half a floor please?

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On Goad's Plan No. 29,28 & 27 (MaCathy's) is described as being 3.5 floors. What is half a floor please?

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Good question Richard! The key isn't very much help;

http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/onlin...age154923.html

I've always assumed that the 1/2 floor meant an attic room built into the arch of the roof.
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Didn't No. 26 have attic rooms?

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Good question Richard! The key isn't very much help;

http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/onlin...age154923.html

I've always assumed that the 1/2 floor meant an attic room built into the arch of the roof.
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You will find what is most likely an attic bedroom above 13 Miller's Court.

This will involve yet another staircase
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Well, yes, No26 certainly did have attic space and rooms as did 27. but on Goad's no 26 is decribed as 3 floors whereas 27 has 3.5. I know the design of 27 is somewhat different from No26 but i'm wondering about the difference and location of that 0.5 of a floor!

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This will involve yet another staircase
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Surmise 26 had one attic room and 27 more use of the space. There does seem to be two windows on 27.
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