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Old 12-20-2017, 12:10 PM
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From the Kentish Mercury 3rd August 1883. This Tabard Road appears to have been in Bow, so can't be the Borough one? Bow is certainly nearer to Whitechapel? There's a Wickham Close near Stepney Green, has this been renamed from Wickham Place? Could this be where Tabard Street was??
There was a Tabard Court which was just south of Bow in Lodore Street E14 (Poplar). Its location is now taken by the St Frideswides Mission, which was the real location for the TV series Call The Midwife, although the nuns left it to go to the midlands in the 60s.

Wickham Close is a new road (1999)named after the tower block that used to be there called Wickham House which was named after a place in Sussex, Wickham Green.
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There was a Tabard Court which was just south of Bow in Lodore Street E14 (Poplar). Its location is now taken by the St Frideswides Mission, which was the real location for the TV series Call The Midwife, although the nuns left it to go to the midlands in the 60s.

Wickham Close is a new road (1999)named after the tower block that used to be there called Wickham House which was named after a place in Sussex, Wickham Green.

Many thanks for this information Yen. I don't think it'll be the Poplar one as that would have been covered by K Division. Interestingly the Wickham Place/Tabbard Street is in fact the Borough one, so the Bow location is incorrect in that newspaper report.

Also Scholes never served in L Division (Borough) so it's anyone's guess where the journalist got Tabard Street from? I mulling over the possibility that it's perhaps a misquote of Arbour Street? If he'd been posted to that station, then that would explain why he was patrolling Mile End Road?

If Bow can be confused with Borough then why not Tabard and Arbour?
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"Countryman" Melborne - Friday 3rd October 1924.
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Going off topic slightly if I may, no trace of Tabbard Street can be located.... interesting whilst working on another project I came across some other streets that clealry existed, but can find no trace of them either? Even using this 1891 map.

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom...9&layers=1&b=1

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DONALD WATERS (Police Inspector, J). On June 26th, a little after 10 p.m., I heard a whistle in Whitechapel Road—I saw the prisoner running, followed by a number of persons—I gave chase—after running about 100 yards in Ivy Lane, Friday Street, Bath Street, I overtook him in Bath Passage—we struggled—a constable came to my assistance—he continued to struggle, and kicked me in the leg, but did not hurt me much—other roughs got round—he was conveyed to Bethnal Green Police-station by two constables—


Ivy Lane, Friday Street, Bath Street & Bath Passage, all appear to have been near Whitechapel Road and relatively close to Bethnal Green Station and yet I can find no record of them or confirm there locations? If someone else can shine some light on this for me, I'd very much like to hear from you.
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Hey SC,
Bath Street runs off Brady Street, opposite the east end of Buck's Row. Well, one does, there may be others. There's also a Bath Place off it, perhaps this is the Bath Passage mentioned, it does look rather narrow.
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"Countryman" Melborne - Friday 3rd October 1924.

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Tabard street runs down South East from the Borough and runs into old kent road (A2). Just south of the river, in Southwark area.

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Found this handy site for London streets that have had their names changed, which might be useful. Not in this instance, alas.

https://www.maps.thehunthouse.com/St...reet_Names.htm
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Hey SC,
Bath Street runs off Brady Street, opposite the east end of Buck's Row. Well, one does, there may be others. There's also a Bath Place off it, perhaps this is the Bath Passage mentioned, it does look rather narrow.

Thanks Josh, I think you might be onto something here. If the red line on the map below is Bath Street, then Ivy Street & Friday Street are perhaps some of the streets joining it?
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Tabard street runs down South East from the Borough and runs into old kent road (A2). Just south of the river, in Southwark area.

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Thanks Pat, but the Tabbard Street I'm trying to find was supposed to be in Whitechapel somewhere near Mile End Road.
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