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Old 11-19-2017, 05:50 PM
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Just watched the first episode and dearie, dearie me...the idea that he is the Ripper just seems to have been pulled out of thin air.

Will watch the next one that at least seems to be about the Ripper crimes but it's looking like this one is in the "preposterous" pile.
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Just watched the first episode and dearie, dearie me...the idea that he is the Ripper just seems to have been pulled out of thin air.

Will watch the next one that at least seems to be about the Ripper crimes but it's looking like this one is in the "preposterous" pile.
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I don't know, the London episodes of that series at least let us see several renowned Ripperologists (apparently there really is someone with the moniker "Frogg Moody"), but their recreations of certain murders are very poor.

The series overall is interesting if you want to know more about Holmes himself, and I was fascinated by the exhumation of his grave, as we get to see the extreme lengths he went to prevent his body being dug up by 19th century grave robbers.

The notion Holmes was the Ripper? Nonsense. The Thames Torso Mysteries are closer to Holmes' style, in my opinion, but if he wasn't in London at the time, then forget that too.
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I watched the entire 8-part limited series on the History Channel. While I was slightly disappointed with the outcome (DNA testing of the shawl), I found all of the circumstantial evidence quite compelling. I can see how someone could easily believe that H.H. Holmes was indeed the Ripper.

The most compelling evidence presented during the limited series was the side-by-side photos of H.H. Holmes and the Ripper sketch, which was etched from all of the eyewitness accounts of the day. The sketch was pretty spot on. At that point it was hard to deny the possibility that H.H. Holmes could've been the Ripper.

As an avid Ripper fan (I've always been fascinated with the mystery of the Ripper), I've seen many documentaries surrounding the great debate of who he was. The circumstantial evidence surround H.H. Holmes as the Ripper tends to be the most compelling to date in terms of Ripper suspects.

Just because the DNA tests didn't deliver the results Mudgett had hoped for, it doesn't necessarily mean Holmes wasn't the Ripper.
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I'm not sure if this word has ever been used before but here it goes...Jacksploitation.

I couldn't tell if this was a deliberate case just for profit or if Mr Mudgett was just caught up in suspect fever that we have observed many times through the years.

After watching the 8 episodes (which I have to say were quite enjoyable) I'm convinced Mr Mudgett is a "true believer" in his candidacy.

The whole calligraphy sketch was hilarious, a letter by Holmes at the age of 33 does not match Dear Boss, while a receipt written by him at 17 is inconclusive. From that Mr Mudgett announces "Your inconclusive conclusion means that Homles could have been Jack the Ripper!" I spat my coffee out at that point.

And all this of course without even addressing the authenticity or otherwise of Dear Boss.

I take it in the USA the threshold for exhuming a body is a tad lower than the UK and I'm not convinced someone at the bottom of a grave saying "where are you you B*****!" is treating the whole process with respect as was promised.

The HH Holmes case does not have the glamour of Jack the Ripper and to piggyback it onto it is just spurious strawclutchery to attract the gullible punters, like me.

This will reach saturation point where there will be more Ripper suspects than people alive in 1888, as I said at the start HH Holmes = The ludicrous pile.



As to the OP about the Stride photograph recognition, this is the photo they claim is "a known photograph of Elizabeth Stride".



Even then despite having a 64% match the two women in the photographs look nothing like one another!

Just for comparison..

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