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you blew it
Blow me. Nothing you've shown at all indicates the killer dumped parts for shock value. Your argument has no weight
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Since I like you so very much, I could not bring myself to report you for calling me brain dead. However, I am of course not willing to debate with somebody who lowers himself to such deplorable levels on account of sheer frustration (or anything else).
I have a bright son who normally advices people never to lower themselves to levels of discussion where they have no experience. I tend to take that advice every now and then.

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Please, cry me a river full of body parts
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And? What are you trying to say?
That dumping bodies or body parts into a river is an effective way to dispose of evidence, avoid detection and delay justice. Nobody sets out to dump bodies in a river with the intention of creating a floating horror-show. If you want a guaranteed way to create shock and terror you leave your corpses in a public place.
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That dumping bodies or body parts into a river is an effective way to dispose of evidence, avoid detection and delay justice. Nobody sets out to dump bodies in a river with the intention of creating a floating horror-show. If you want a guaranteed way to create shock and terror you leave your corpses in a public place.
And if you want no cleanup or disposablek and little time as possible with victims you find a dark corner and leave the mess behind. Easy
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That dumping bodies or body parts into a river is an effective way to dispose of evidence, avoid detection and delay justice. Nobody sets out to dump bodies in a river with the intention of creating a floating horror-show. If you want a guaranteed way to create shock and terror you leave your corpses in a public place.
And we know that the Torso killer did leave body parts in public places, yes. As for creating shock and terror, I´d say that floating a full, cut away face with the eyelashes intact down the river goes a long way in that particular line of business too.

Thanks for elaborating.
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And we know that the Torso killer did leave body parts in public places, yes. As for creating shock and terror, I´d say that floating a full, cut away face with the eyelashes intact down the river goes a long way in that particular line of business too.

Thanks for elaborating.
Or the killer cut away the face from the skull to prevent identification in case either is found. Its another extra level of precaution that you interpret as fear mongering
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And we know that the Torso killer did leave body parts in public places, yes.
Under a railway arch or in a vault on a building-site doesn't constitute a public place. And throwing a thigh over a hedge doesn't count as "leaving" a body part there either.
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As for creating shock and terror, I´d say that floating a full, cut away face with the eyelashes intact down the river goes a long way in that particular line of business too.
Whose skinned face floated down the Thames?

Besides, how many people - if any - are going to even spot such a small object against the great bulk of the Thames? Same goes for any other body part, really. Who was the killer's intended audience? Did he have it in for the River Police?
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And we know that the Torso killer did leave body parts in public places, yes. As for creating shock and terror, I´d say that floating a full, cut away face with the eyelashes intact down the river goes a long way in that particular line of business too.

Thanks for elaborating.
The major issue with your suggestion I see is that there is no guarantee the parts disposed of in the River would be found.

The Whitehall Torso also appears to have been placed so that it may not have been found and it appears to have been fortuitous that it was FOUND so relatively quiçkly.

The Part thrown over into the Shelly garden could easily have been missed for sometime depending on where the part landed.


Only Pinchin Street shows a desire to allow the Body part to be easily seen and found.

Given the dates, this may have been someone celebrating the anniversary of Chapman, or someone trying to suggest a link.

Sorry but I see your argument that disposing of the parts by river to expose them to "Londoners" to at present be weak.

I said before I consider it a plausible suggestion and I still do just; however there seems little to support the idea given at this moment, other than your belief that this was the objective of the killer.



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