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In the case of Lechmere and the inquest, only one newspaper reported his home address (according to Fisherman).

Why?

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In the case of Lechmere and the inquest, only one newspaper reported his home address (according to Fisherman).

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Something I have been looking at myself, there are several possible reasons, all of which I am a dressing in part 3. If you have any ideas I would be glad to hear them.


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Something I have been looking at myself, there are several possible reasons, all of which I am a dressing in part 3. If you have any ideas I would be glad to hear them.

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I do not really have any "ideas". The only hypothesis I want to put forth is that The Star had their own way of collecting information.

What the method was I don´t know.

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I do not really have any "ideas". The only hypothesis I want to put forth is that The Star had their own way of collecting information.

What the method was I don´t know.

Pierre
Some interesting points to note from my work.

Of the 8 reports of Llewellyn's testimony only four give his address.
For Eade it's none in 4 reports, and for Mulshaw his address is given only once in 7 reports.

It seems that including the address in press reports of the Nichols inquest did not always occur. I may carry out a quick of the other murders to see if this is repeated if I find the time.

In the Mulshaw reports his address is given only by the Times. It may not therefore be the star was better at collecting.

So the answer may be as simply the press didn't always give full details in the reports.
It will be interesting to see what results I get when I move to Mitre Sq with a copy of the official report available.


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Probably for the same reason press reports today are exactly the same across papers.

Column inches.
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Probably for the same reason press reports today are exactly the same across papers.

Column inches.
My thoughts exactly Geoff, but I will look at all options.
Don't think Pierre's hypothesis will hold up, but the thread is useful to point it out.
And of course such argues against other ideas that there was something special about Lechmere only having one report of his address.

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In the case of Lechmere and the inquest, only one newspaper reported his home address (according to Fisherman).

Why?
Why not? Seriously; I'm not being flippant.

I can't see why all newspapers should be expected report all the information all the time. Column-space was limited, and the papers weren't obliged to print anything, really. In the case of the Nichols murder, of course, the big surge of interest in the case had yet to kick off in earnest, so - as we've seen - press coverage wasn't as near as extensive or comprehensive as it would later become.
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Hi Steve,

I do not really have any "ideas". The only hypothesis I want to put forth is that The Star had their own way of collecting information.

What the method was I don´t know.

Pierre
The implication being that the address wasn't given at the inquest but The Star found it out some other way (i.e. the address of Cross rather than Lechmere)? Also that Cross didn't even give his address?
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The implication being that the address wasn't given at the inquest but The Star found it out some other way (i.e. the address of Cross rather than Lechmere)? Also that Cross didn't even give his address?
That is certainly what some have suggested. However the other examples I have postrd suggest that this is not an isolated example and to interpret it as being an attempt at avoidance is not supported by the sources.


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Some interesting points to note from my work.

Of the 8 reports of Llewellyn's testimony only four give his address.
For Eade it's none in 4 reports, and for Mulshaw his address is given only once in 7 reports.

It seems that including the address in press reports of the Nichols inquest did not always occur. I may carry out a quick of the other murders to see if this is repeated if I find the time.

In the Mulshaw reports his address is given only by the Times. It may not therefore be the star was better at collecting.

So the answer may be as simply the press didn't always give full details in the reports.
It will be interesting to see what results I get when I move to Mitre Sq with a copy of the official report available.

Steve
Yes, I think you are right, the press did not always give full details. But we don´t know why and can not generalize from small samples.

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