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Smith's comment re: the information being buried deep in obscure racing records is pure drivel, as I've mentioned before that it's plainly available in the book, Liverpool Soundings, by our old mate, Whittington-Egan, whose chapter on the subject even makes mention of James' and Flo's public dispute there during their attendance.

As I presumed, this book is poorly researched and based on sheer nonsense.

Great article, David, and I hope it doesn't go unread by the diary's many misguided supporters.
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Apologies if already mentioned and I missed it.
It's probably at least worth remembering during your discussion what Barrett had to say about the Post House.

"I should inform you that I actually worked as a Barman in the Post House Public House about 7 years ago and I gained a full know-ledge of the history of the old pub, and I decided when writing the Diary that I would put the name Post House in knowing full well that it had been called the 'Muck Midden' in the 1800's. This fact could actually be established and in particularly by me should I later need to prove what I had done"

Either the truth or it confuses things even further.
Because if he didn't write or know who wrote it, he would have been aware from the off that it was inaccurate when he acquired it.

Did Barrett really work there or was that part of his confession just a ramble?
Apologies for asking a lazy question, but can anyone point me to the full text of Barrett's confession, if it's available online at all?
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Apologies for asking a lazy question, but can anyone point me to the full text of Barrett's confession, if it's available online at all?
No problem, they are on this site Henry.

http://www.casebook.org/suspects/jam...con.bjan5.html

http://www.casebook.org/suspects/jam...on.bjan25.html
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Very interesting David. Some great research.
Thank you Steve.
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Thanks David. Excellent analysis of the new book.
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Smith's comment re: the information being buried deep in obscure racing records is pure drivel, as I've mentioned before that it's plainly available in the book, Liverpool Soundings, by our old mate, Whittington-Egan, whose chapter on the subject even makes mention of James' and Flo's public dispute there during their attendance.

As I presumed, this book is poorly researched and based on sheer nonsense.

Great article, David, and I hope it doesn't go unread by the diary's many misguided supporters.
Thanks Mike. I did take a look at Liverpool Soundings but there's no mention of the 1889 race being particularly fast or anything about timings so a forger would have needed something more.
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Thanks Mike. I did take a look at Liverpool Soundings but there's no mention of the 1889 race being particularly fast or anything about timings so a forger would have needed something more.
No problem, David.

Either way, I think the forger had all that they needed right here in Liverpool for the most part.

Those newspapers could be readily viewed in the library, I've looked at some of them myself, but for other details. Those Reading Rooms are an impressive place indeed.
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From your article David:

"For the 9 March 1992 timesheet to have any force as evidence, it needs to support the pre-existing story about electricians making a discovery at Battlecrease which was set out in Shirley Harrison’s 1988 and 2003 books."

Shirley's first Diary book was in 1993.
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From your article David:

"For the 9 March 1992 timesheet to have any force as evidence, it needs to support the pre-existing story about electricians making a discovery at Battlecrease which was set out in Shirley Harrison’s 1988 and 2003 books."

Shirley's first Diary book was in 1993.
Yes I know Scott but I think I am right in saying that her 1993 book contained no mention of the story of the electricians. It was, however, mentioned in the 1998 paperback edition (and that section was repeated in her 2003 book, 'The American Connection').
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