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It does, Caz - thanks. My experience of replacing old boilers is somewhat limited.


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Have you not seen my post re 'spreading mayhem'? I know you saw Gary's 1877 example of a prisoner wondering if he should top himself by means of hanging, because you replied to it.
Yes, indeed, but it's all a matter of how "saturated" these phrases become in Joe/Jim Public's consciousness before they can be included, in a throw-away manner, in a conversation or internal monologue.

The 1877 "top myself" example had to be explained in the text, don't forget, as it was a slang expression. And "top myself" (by hanging or other means) only became a popular expression in more recent times.
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I'm not sure anyone has claimed that the alleged trip to Liverpool University was on 9 March, have they? In any case, we don't know for sure that Mike had the diary in front of him when he rang Doreen on that day either, nor when he took over full possession of it. He was putting out feelers, but how much did he really know by then?

Also, wasn't the story [for whatever it's worth] that Mike had some Pan paperbacks indoors and called them first on 9 March, and they put him onto Rupert Crew?
Hi Caz,

I thought the reason for most folk rejecting the Battlecrease Provenance was the fact that it gives an impossible timeline for raising the boards, finding the Diary, locating Mike Barrett, getting across to the University, and phoning Doreen Montgomery all on the same day! So what day was the visit to the University?

No, we don't know for sure that Mike had the Diary on his lap when he rang Doreen, but his reported words were, "I've got Jack The Ripper's Diary, would you be interested to see it?" Another porkie, then? And if so, when did he get his mitts on the Diary?

In fairness to me, it's a while since I've carefully re-read any of my Diary books (including yours) and I should do so, but you're dead right: Page 8 of The Inside Story (I just looked) relates how he obtained Rupert Crew's contact details.

I reckon I missed getting on the list for the new book by a whisker....
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Caz, my view is that it is a hoax, and a modern one. I have given enough valid reasons for holding this view, reasons which I'm still waiting for literally any believer to address, as opposed to meekly attempting to promote a book. I do not need to invent ideas for how it was written or when it was written, particularly seeing as I have made it clear that I'm not convinced on who wrote it, just that it was recent and a hoax.

You, on the other hand, God knows what your actual opinion on it is, seeing as you spend so much time defending it, and doing a lot of reaching while doing so, I think you may be a closet believer, but you profess not to be. You need to explain how the events of 9th March add up if we're assuming it was done in the late afternoon.

Aigburth to town during rush-hour, arranging a meeting with a random bloke at a random department in a random uni building in town, presumably back to the office to clock-off, then either home or to Anfield, meet Mike, was this meeting instantaneous? Apparently. Then Mike looks at it, and bang! on the dog and bone to London. What time are we on now, Caz? 10pm? lol. Yeah, seems legit.
Hi Mike,

You are attending the conference, right? So you can ask Keith Skinner face to face about the known versus the alleged events on 9 March 1992, can't you? Then you wouldn't need to assume stuff on here about the timing and reach conclusions based on your assumptions, which I then get a boot up my backside for not having enough time to address, clarify or correct in the run-up to my much-needed holiday in Wales.

Would you also be willing to take a copy of Liverpool Soundings with you and show it to Keith? He is very interested in the information you say it contains, which would have assisted Mike Barrett in creating the diary text.

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I thought the reason for most folk rejecting the Battlecrease Provenance was the fact that it gives an impossible timeline for raising the boards, finding the Diary, locating Mike Barrett, getting across to the University...
Not forgetting, as the time sheet shows, that Rigby entered a full 8-hour shift on the day in question.
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Hi Caz,

I thought the reason for most folk rejecting the Battlecrease Provenance was the fact that it gives an impossible timeline for raising the boards, finding the Diary, locating Mike Barrett, getting across to the University, and phoning Doreen Montgomery all on the same day! So what day was the visit to the University?
Search me, Graham! There have been a lot of assumptions around here that if there was a visit to the University, whether in relation to the diary or something else entirely, it had to be on that same day, which nobody as far as I am aware, has ever claimed.

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No, we don't know for sure that Mike had the Diary on his lap when he rang Doreen, but his reported words were, "I've got Jack The Ripper's Diary, would you be interested to see it?" Another porkie, then? And if so, when did he get his mitts on the Diary?
I can only suggest that, Mike being Mike, he wanted this thing real bad, and if he didn't already have it in his hands on that day, he was determined to get it as soon as poss.

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I reckon I missed getting on the list for the new book by a whisker....
Hey ho....
If the interest is there, maybe there will be another printing. I have no idea if that's even possible.

If the interest isn't there, you should be able to pick one up secondhand before long.

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Not forgetting, as the time sheet shows, that Rigby entered a full 8-hour shift on the day in question.
As you know, Gareth, Robert offers a couple of reasonable suggestions in his book for how the diary - or at least news of it - may have got to Anfield from Aigburth before the sun was even over the yardarm.

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If the interest isn't there, you should be able to pick one up secondhand before long.
With a few pages missing from the front
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As you know, Gareth, Robert offers a couple of reasonable suggestions in his book for how the diary - or at least news of it - may have got to Anfield from Aigburth before the sun was even over the yardarm.
It still stretches credulity to breaking point, Caz
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And then watch me go....Barrett will have nothing on me!

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