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Why so?
https://www.uleth.ca/dspace/bitstrea...pdf?sequence=1

This is an interesting account of slaughterhouses in Victorian London. It focuses on the prevalence of artisan slaughtermen - essentially butchers slaughtering their own beasts.
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If you look at the occupations of the residents of 37, Hanbury Street over the years, you get an inkling of what might have gone on in the yard behind it:

1856
Rees Lewis, cowman and dairyman

1869
Elizabeth Williams, cow keeper

1882
Morgan Williams, cow keeper

1895
David Felix, cow keeper

1901
John Lewis, cowman
David Richards, milkman

1911
Arthur John Pritchford, cow keeper and dairyman

Many London dairymen were Welsh or of Welsh extraction.
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If you look at the occupations of the residents of 37, Hanbury Street over the years, you get an inkling of what might have gone on in the yard behind it:
Holy moly! It actually was a dairy, in the middle of a city with no greenery around...
Where did th cows graze? What did they eat? Maybe slops from the brewery?
Mmm, tipsy milk.

Good find, Mr B.

Now, any idea where the slaughterers in Mitre Square were heading/leaving?
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Apparently, the idea of bringing milk into London by rail was a novel idea at the time, and their were many cows kept in small sheds to give fresh milk - is this where people like Mrs Maxwell went for their morning milk?

I wonder if these guys were on their way to Barber's Yard?

Echo 8th Sept;
"WHAT THE MILKMEN SAW
James Wiltshire and Alfred Henry Gunthorpe, two milkmen in the employ of the Dairy Supply Company, Museum-street, Bloomsbury, were driving in separate carts through Hanbury-street early this morning. Wiltshire passed the thoroughfare at twenty minutes to six. He says, "There was no bother then, and no sign that a murder had been committed. There were people about, but I did not notice anyone in particular." Alfred Henry Gunthorpe passed through part of Hanbury-street into Brick-lane, shortly after, and he saw nothing of a suspicious character."

According to this site;
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/baldw...y-company/amp/

The Dairy Supply Company was the equipment side of the Express Dairy milk delivery company, whatever that means...were they picking up empties?
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Holy moly! It actually was a dairy, in the middle of a city with no greenery around...
Where did th cows graze? What did they eat? Maybe slops from the brewery?
Mmm, tipsy milk.

Good find, Mr B.

Now, any idea where the slaughterers in Mitre Square were heading/leaving?
I imagine they were fed on hay, Joshua.

It sounds like the Mitre Square slaughtermen were heading towards Aldgate. On their way to work, I'd imagine. Interesting that they were wearing clearly identifiable protective clothing in the street. From what I've read, knackers also wore canvas suits and hats.

This group of men are standing outside a pub beside what would become HB's head office in Islington (at the time John Harrison's premises). Judging by the licensee's name, Henry Tomkins' dad was probably working there at the time. The two on the right look as if they might be dressed for a spot of knackering.

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The slaughterhouses in proximity to the M1 victim are the only slaughterhouses within the m5 footprint to include 100meters around each recovery site.
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I stand corrected about the cows' feed. According to this report from The Scotsman of 20th April, 1949 it consisted principally of brewers' grain:

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