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I'm a free woman too, HS. I was just quoting number 6 from The Prisoner.

I wouldn't be a man for all the gin in Waitrose.

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I did get 'The Prisoner' reference Caz.
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Kaz,

Don't say fanny in a mixed U.K./USA forum or there'll be some serious confusion👍
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Kaz,

Don't say fanny in a mixed U.K./USA forum or there'll be some serious confusion👍


HAHA!

I know....

I'll try to stop winding....can't help myself
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"I will give her a call"?

They had phones in 1888?
Yes, and apparently James Maybrick had one. Not that it would matter if he did or didn't, because nobody in their right mind could interpret this as a serious intention to get Queen Vic on the blower.

I wonder how quickly Mike Barrett found out that Maybrick had one of these newfangled 'telling bones'?

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The provenance has buried the diary from the get go..

Its very sad that it ever fell into mikes grubby hands.

I often wonder what would be made of it IF the electricians had just given it to the owner of battlecrease!!??
Paul Dodd would now be the one accused of faking and planting it, of course, Kaz. And it would be seen as a more sophisticated effort, in accordance with the prime suspect.

Haven't you grasped anything about how this works?

If Mike had been more like Paul Dodd - or Albert Johnson, to pick a more apt example - it might have been a tad trickier to try and pin it on him [without the luxury of a 'confession' handed on a plate to the wishful thinkers], but you can bet your last thruppence it would have been done.

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Yes, and apparently James Maybrick had one. Not that it would matter if he did or didn't, because nobody in their right mind could interpret this as a serious intention to get Queen Vic on the blower.

I wonder how quickly Mike Barrett found out that Maybrick had one of these newfangled 'telling bones'?

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OK thanks.

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Not that it would matter if he did or didn't, because nobody in their right mind could interpret this as a serious intention to get Queen Vic on the blower.
whether it was serious or not is beside the point. Its whether he meant call her as in on the phone. and if that phrase is anachronistic.
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They did, although they were pretty new-fangled in the 1880s and by no means as numerous as they would later become. Be that as it may, you could well have found another anachronistic expression; I'd like to know when "giving someone a call" became part of the casual vernacular.

Edit: I found a history of telephony in Britain here http://www.britishtelephones.com/histuk.htm. It states, among other useful bits of info, that there were 13,000 telephones in use in Britain in 1884, and the first "long distance" trial took place in 1885 between London and - you guessed it - Liverpool. The Diary's lucky streak continues... even if its use of the expression "give her a call" still strikes me as potentially too "modern" for 1888.
Hi Gareth, Abby [just seen your post],

I wondered if you could use "give her a call" to mean "pay her a call", as in "pay her a visit"?

The very next line in the diary is:

"Show her my knife".

So unless the diarist had a video telephone in mind, he'd have had to pay her that call to show her his weapon, wouldn't he?

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It's too clever, Mike. On a scale where your "funny little rhyme" scores 10, I'd score the diary's poems at 3, or 4 at the very most. This is purely on a comparative basis, of course, but I don't think it's an unfair comparison. The diary's poems are incredibly poor, and its prose isn't of a much better standard either.
And of course, Gareth, we all know that if you are writing a diary claiming to be a serial-killing cotton merchant of little talent, the first thing you must do is to write decent poetry and make it damned good, and the second is to write excellent prose.

Because if it ever sees the light of day that's the first thing the experts will look for.

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Hi Gareth, Abby [just seen your post],

I wondered if you could use "give her a call" to mean "pay her a call", as in "pay her a visit"?

The very next line in the diary is:

"Show her my knife".

So unless the diarist had a video telephone in mind, he'd have had to pay her that call to show her his weapon, wouldn't he?

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Hi Caz
Thanks-yes I was wondering about that interpretation too-like "I shall call upon her". to visit. Could be.

But just sounds so modern to me-"give her a call"
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