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Old 07-30-2017, 02:51 PM
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Hello Pat,

It seems to me that if the Lodger story is true then the landlady would have been used as a key witness which as far as I know did not happen.

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Hi, c.d.,

Yes, this is a good point. Thanks for the reply.
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Old 09-06-2017, 07:31 AM
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For your information the documentary series about H. H. Holmes being JtR starts tonight (Tuesday, July 11) on History Channel, here in the USA. Ads for it indicate he doubts that his ancestor was really executed, and intends to dig up the grave.

I'll watch it, out of an interest in Holmes, but I'm not expecting that we'll be crying "case closed!" afterwards.
Having been following it On Demand out of sheer curiosity when I get back from the pub, it's funny how much mental gymnastics is on display to bend and shape Holmes into the "Ripper."

It obviously discounts some early murders and the "torsos", too, and assumes a great deal.

One thing I find quite annoying is the main guy's constant reference to his great great grandfather, H.H. Holmes.

Hey, my great great grandfather, H.H. Holmes.

Did I mention, my great great grandfather, H.H. Holmes.

I wonder how this relates to my great great grandfather, H.H. Holmes.

Give it a rest and shave that goatee, mate.
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Old 09-06-2017, 07:39 AM
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Not sure. Basically the History Channel claimed Earhart survived her 1937 disappearance based on a photo which they claimed was taken afterwards. A researcher reviewed it and determined it was a photo from 1935 and was already previously known. The History Channel had to come out and apologize and with a statement saying they're "looking into" how badly they could have flubbed that. This is the same Channel that has Ancient Aliens.
I always find it surprising that people find it surprising that the History channel is essentially a load of bollocks that is purely intended to string people along and gain viewers.

It's like telling kids about gory executions from the past in order to try and get them interested in history.
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Having been following it On Demand out of sheer curiosity when I get back from the pub, it's funny how much mental gymnastics is on display to bend and shape Holmes into the "Ripper."

It obviously discounts some early murders and the "torsos", too, and assumes a great deal.

One thing I find quite annoying is the main guy's constant reference to his great great grandfather, H.H. Holmes.

Hey, my great great grandfather, H.H. Holmes.

Did I mention, my great great grandfather, H.H. Holmes.

I wonder how this relates to my great great grandfather, H.H. Holmes.

Give it a rest and shave that goatee, mate.
well he was, after all you know, his great great grandfather, H.H. Holmes.
LOL!
The whole things a joke and I could only stomach about 10 minutes of the nonsense until I turned the channel to something more credible like pro wrestling.
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well he was, after all you know, his great great grandfather, H.H. Holmes.
LOL!
The whole things a joke and I could only stomach about 10 minutes of the nonsense until I turned the channel to something more credible like pro wrestling.
Tbf, I bloody like wrestling! lol.

I quite enjoy watching the show when I return from the pub, but as I say, it's clearly just another nonsense History show that only serves to bring in viewers and keep them tuned in.

I don't for a second buy into this guy's theory at all, and I'd be surprised if the bird with the inflated lips does, either, if she has any sense.

That kid with the pipe does my head in, too.

Tbh, it makes for a good drinking game, just take a drink every time he says "my great great grandfather, H.H. Holmes..."


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Old 09-12-2017, 04:23 AM
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I agree with all of the above. And as Mike said, surely he was in The States at the time?

Or is someone planning a Neil Cream-like piece of subterfuge including bribery and doppelgängers.

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Have any of you properly sat down and watched the show, though? My dad and I just popped it out in one go, there are some uncanny similarities. Also, there are records of him leaving the US in 1888, to England. Returning in 1889. Give the show a watch if you want to, I was very surprised - seeing as I believe Lechmere is the true ripper.
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Have any of you properly sat down and watched the show, though? My dad and I just popped it out in one go, there are some uncanny similarities. Also, there are records of him leaving the US in 1888, to England. Returning in 1889. Give the show a watch if you want to, I was very surprised - seeing as I believe Lechmere is the true ripper.
I've been watching it, and I have to say, they didn't find any evidence of him leaving the US for England at all. What they did was find variations of names on registers that matched various aliases of his, and what they failed to omit was that they saw several supposed aliases on the same registers.

So, either, they were common names of people, or Holmes weirdly traveled on the same boat with at least 5 different names, for no reason whatsoever.

If we're being logical, it would seem that the "aliases" were not actual aliases at all, and that these names belonged to average people traveling by boat.

There is basically not one iota of evidence to suggest Holmes was anything more than a bloke from Chicago who killed people over there.
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