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Old 07-19-2017, 09:38 AM
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I read the "From Hell" graphic novel recently and don't recall the line about "giving birth to the 20th Century" anywhere in it. But it does show that Gull is able to have visions of the 20th Century. In the graphic novel, while killing Mary Kelly, Gull suddenly finds himself in, instead of Kelly's shabby room, a 20th Century high-tech office, where people use computers and wear fancy clothing. Then Gull goes on a semi-coherent rant about those people being soulless heathens "playing joylessly with their toys," being "numbed by their century," being "given marvels when they are beyond all wonders," etc. Then Gull says something seems to indicate that he believes he is responsible for the 20th Century: "See me! Wake up and look upon me! I am come amongst you. I am with you always!"

As to why the 2001 movie "From Hell" uses the line about giving birth to the 20th Century, I'm guessing maybe the filmmaker thought this was something found in those JTR letters, as some have believed.
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There's a bit of foreshadowing in the "From Hell" graphic novel at the end, too, as Gull's spirit supposedly flies about and appears to people who will later be serial killers in their own rights. Of course, I like the very end, in Ireland, the best...
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There's a bit of foreshadowing in the "From Hell" graphic novel at the end, too, as Gull's spirit supposedly flies about and appears to people who will later be serial killers in their own rights. Of course, I like the very end, in Ireland, the best...
The best thing I like about the graphic novel is the drawing style. There are many flashbacks, subjective thoughts visualized, and other dazzling ways of presentation. The opening scene of Chapter 2 is wonderful, showing complete darkness at first and gradually revealing a psychopathic young Gull. That long scene of Gull explaining classic architecture and history to Netley is memorable as well. The writing is pretty good too. But those interested in the facts of the murders might be put off by the wild royal theories that are a rehash of Stephen Knight's Final Solution. The book includes an appendix of author Alan Moore detailing how he used the facts of the murders to create his fiction. But his explanations indicate he didn't understand the facts very well to begin with, as few people ever do. This was before Philip Sudgen's wonderful book that cleaned up a lot of myths and misinformation, after all.
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The line came from Alan Moore. He discusses it, amongst other things in an interview about "From Hell".
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The line came from Alan Moore. He discusses it, amongst other things in an interview about "From Hell".
Is the line in the graphic novel too? If so, can you or anyone show me where it is? I have the book right in front of me but can't find where it is.
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Is the line in the graphic novel too? If so, can you or anyone show me where it is? I have the book right in front of me but can't find where it is.
great line. and true
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Another fictional JtR line I love is in the bizarre time-travel movie Time After Time, in which Jack, (played by the always wonderful David Warner), now in contemporary America, flicks through the unrelenting carnival of degradation and violence on the television, and comments with grim humour,

"90 years ago I was a freak. Today I'm an amateur."
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Is the line in the graphic novel too? If so, can you or anyone show me where it is? I have the book right in front of me but can't find where it is.
Hi, YomRippur, I have both the graphic novel and the "companion" volume, so I will look in them and post the page number where the quote occurs for you.

I have a vague idea it's in a narration balloon, but I could be wrong...
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