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It's absurd how far some people go on here to see minor differences in major similarities. I mean you could say there are 5 different serial killers based on the minor differences in c5.

Polly. No organs taken
Chapman. Uterus taken
Eddowes. Kidney taken
Stride. Cut throat only
Kelly. Heart taken
We are all familiar with the wisecracks and bizarre interpretations. Maybe you should read about the cases....without the so often insertion of suspect bias. Location/Victimology/Signature-Pattern...all that matters. And of course that the real so called Ripper murders were random acts.
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We are all familiar with the wisecracks and bizarre interpretations. Maybe you should read about the cases....without the so often insertion of suspect bias. Location/Victimology/Signature-Pattern...all that matters. And of course that the real so called Ripper murders were random acts.
Yes it all does matter and points to a serial killer and not random acts.
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The man was Michael Maybrick of course and he was using a verse from a song he'd been working on which mocked Polish immigrants in the end. I don't remember the entire song as I was stumbling around drunk trying to light a pipe, but it went something like "Loose Lipskis, sink shipskis."

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The man was Michael Maybrick of course and he was using a verse from a song he'd been working on which mocked Polish immigrants in the end. I don't remember the entire song as I was stumbling around drunk trying to light a pipe, but it went something like "Loose Lipskis, sink shipskis."

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Yes it all does matter and points to a serial killer and not random acts.
I'm curious...what evidence do you base your assumption on that Polly and Annie were not random acts of violence, stranger to stranger as it were.
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I'm curious...what evidence do you base your assumption on that Polly and Annie were not random acts of violence, stranger to stranger as it were.
The double throat cuts, in respect of Polly and Annie, are strongly indicative of a ritualistic element to those murders. And, this is very much indicative of a serial killer.

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I'm curious...what evidence do you base your assumption on that Polly and Annie were not random acts of violence, stranger to stranger as it were.
Hello Michael,

The problem is that random acts of violence do not equate to the Ripper murders. It is the very nature of the murders, i.e, organ removal (or in Polly's case an apparent attempt at such) that make them unique. If all of these women had simply had their throats cut Ripperology would not be what it is today. So yes, bad men did exist in Whitechapel as you say but simply being a bad or evil man or even a murderer is not the same as a murderer who removes internal organs from the women he killed.

Focusing on the differences in the murders makes us lose sight of what made them unique in the first place.

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