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09-04-2008, 01:41 AM
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Dougie,
I can only refer you to the A-Z on this. All the A-Z says is that Druitt left a letter for Mr Valentine alluding to his planned suicide, and a note for his brother with words to the effect that he 'felt he was going to be like mother', etc. The A-Z says that the wording of the note to his brother comes from two press-reports, which were not 'direct quotations'. However, on the old boards, I'm sure someone stated with confidence that these two letters were definitely found in Druitts belongings by the police.
Doubtless someone will post more info about this.
Cheers,
Graham
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09-04-2008, 02:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Dougie,
I can only refer you to the A-Z on this. All the A-Z says is that Druitt left a letter for Mr Valentine alluding to his planned suicide, and a note for his brother with words to the effect that he 'felt he was going to be like mother', etc. The A-Z says that the wording of the note to his brother comes from two press-reports, which were not 'direct quotations'. However, on the old boards, I'm sure someone stated with confidence that these two letters were definitely found in Druitts belongings by the police.
Doubtless someone will post more info about this.
Cheers,
Graham
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Graham,
It seems odd that there is no surviving full text original or copy of either of those letters somewhere.(to my knowledge anyhow) Letters written by a prime suspect on "the eve" of said suspects suicide are no more.....indeed it appears no-one (publicly) knew exactly what the note consisted of at the time either.Is that indicative of a family conspiracy perhaps? ,especially as according to mcnaughton ,who as we know,stated montagues own family suspected druitt.Was indeed that very same note the evidence mcnaughton said he destroyed?Isnt it just a bit too convenient that the only public knowledge of druitts suicide note is a condensed sentence?Does anyone seriously believe that was all he wrote?and if it was then why wasnt it presented as such....a suicide note consisting of one single sentence which says basically "im nuts ,im topping myself"?........
As for the message to Valentine,again what does it consist of? does anyone know?......the full content that is.
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09-04-2008, 11:48 AM
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I think the story goes that Druitt's brother shared the contents of the letter, but wouldn't turn it over to the police as it was personal. I don't know that this was a verbatim rendition of the message, but maybe just a paraphrasing.
Since Druitt wasn't a suspect, this would make sense that the family was allowed to keep things to themselves a bit after a brief explanation.
Cheers,
Mike
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09-04-2008, 02:27 PM
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How comes everyone says that Druitt was a doctor when he was a barrister?
For some reason the research on him is not up to scratch as when people do find out history about him they say he was from Lincoln's Inn but in fact he was based in Kings Bench Walk in the Temple!!!
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09-04-2008, 04:17 PM
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And some times I read he lived in Blackheath, and other times I read he lived in King's Bench Walk ! What to believe then ? I even read in Sophie Herfort's book that MJD received anonymous letters which threatened him to reveal to the police that he was Jack the Ripper. Those letters might have caused his suicide...
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09-04-2008, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Roma
I even read in Sophie Herfort's book that MJD received anonymous letters which threatened him to reveal to the police that he was Jack the Ripper. Those letters might have caused his suicide...
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You read the book Roma?
What was it like? I have visions of Plimmer vs Trenouth.
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09-04-2008, 04:32 PM
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Yes, I read the book but I really didn't like it : I think she is too biased, too much convinced that Mcnaghten is guilty. Of course, she did a lot of research but, as she considers Druitt as a scapegoat from the beginning, she just can't explore every possible solution for the JTR case. Too bad !
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09-04-2008, 04:33 PM
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Shame, I like a good conspiracy book. I hope an English translation comes out in the not too distant future as I wouldn't mind having a read.
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09-04-2008, 07:53 PM
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Some might say the re is reason to believe druitt WAS a suspect at the time of his suicide......could it be that a measure of disinformation was applied? the letter being part of that disinformation?Did the druitt family have enough clout to do that? Im guessing they might have.
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09-05-2008, 04:34 PM
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Hi Dougie
There is an article about a day in the life of a coroner - by Braxton Hicks I think - in which it's stated that a suicide note can be a rather long, rambling and confused document, and that a coroner would normally just read out the gist of it.
That said, it's difficult to imagine that Monty would be guilty of long windedness or confusion, even under extreme stress. He strikes me as a logical fellow - more like the kind of fellow who'd make up his mind to end it all, and then quietly do it.
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