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  • #31
    Yes I'm sure you did. So, what of Doctor Bond ? Was he talking baloney when he stated that he did not believe that the killer displayed any surgical skill?

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    • #32
      What!
      One of us kill these unfortunate women!
      That Sir is an insult!
      My name is Dave. You cannot reach me through Debs email account

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      • #33
        Also, you seem to believe that Jack The Ripper, was in the early years of his fith decade at the time of the murders. Do you believe it possible that Joseph Lawende was at least twenty years out when assesing the age of the man he saw with Kate Eddowes on the night of her murder?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by DJA View Post
          What!
          One of us kill these unfortunate women!
          That Sir is an insult!
          Ehhhh ? Come again, you're talking in riddles. It's a straightforward question, less of the gibberish. Do you believe Doctor Bond to have ben mistaken when he stated that he did not believe the killer to have any ssurgical skills ?
          Last edited by Observer; 11-29-2015, 12:41 PM.

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          • #35
            I think Eddowes entered the Square via 6 Mitre Street.

            Doubt Lawende saw Jack that morning.
            My name is Dave. You cannot reach me through Debs email account

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Observer View Post
              Ehhhh ? Come again, you're talking in riddles. It's a straightforward question, less of the gibberish. Do you believe Doctor Bond to have ben mistaken when he stated that he did not believe the killer to have any ssurgical skills ?
              Yes.

              Who's this ben guy?
              My name is Dave. You cannot reach me through Debs email account

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              • #37
                I wasn't aware it was possible to enter Mitre Square via 6 Mitre street, that is none of the houses on Mitre Street had a door with access to the square. What did she do jump out the window? More to the point what was she doing visiting 6 Mitre Street? And even more to the point how in the hell can you be certain that Eddowes visited 6 Mitre Street, nothing, and I mean nothing has passed down to us whether it be police reports or newspaper articles which suggest such a thing transpired.

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                • #38
                  The thing I don't get is when Paul and Cross saw Polly, they couldn't even tell she was ripped up because it was so dark. How could the ripper possibly perform the mutilations in these conditions. Was he working by feel, or did he have a light source?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by DJA View Post
                    Yes.

                    Who's this ben guy?
                    Don't you know? Never heard of him. Bond was spot on by the way.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by RockySullivan View Post
                      The thing I don't get is when Paul and Cross saw Polly, they couldn't even tell she was ripped up because it was so dark. How could the ripper possibly perform the mutilations in these conditions. Was he working by feel, or did he have a light source?
                      Hi Rocky

                      Who's this Ben guy, have you heard of him? In answer to your question, I believe a bit of both, there would have been a small amount of ambient light available, and he also felt his way by touch.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by RockySullivan View Post
                        The thing I don't get is when Paul and Cross saw Polly, they couldn't even tell she was ripped up because it was so dark. How could the ripper possibly perform the mutilations in these conditions. Was he working by feel, or did he have a light source?
                        The darkness was not the reason that Paul could not see the mutilations - they were hidden by the clothes. Even Neil and Llewellyn missed them, though guided by light.
                        Paul said that the body was perfectly easy to see, so it was not pitch dark. My guess is that the killer used the ambient light there was.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by FutureM.D. View Post
                          Dude. WTF? ��

                          A: my tablet autocorrected 'Prosector' (that's how you spelled it. That's what turned up on the search function THAT LEAD ME TO HIS POSTS). To prosecutors. A word that, for my part, I've encountered far more often than 'prosector'

                          B: I in no way impugned 'Prosector's' training, or expert opinion. I merely suggested his training caused him to see the trees, before the forest. No expert, gets it right; 100% of the time. But apparently you and prosector, have the crimes 100% understood.

                          C: You're a p****' for comparing me to Pierre. Have I forwarded a solution to the crime, without sharing it? No. Have I spoken in riddles? No. I offered some thoughts, and asked for comment on them.

                          You, haven't addressed my points; in either post. You simply referred me to someone 'way above yourself.' See?! I can be passive aggressive too!

                          If my points are wrong, kindly educate me as to why YOU, think the way you do. Without the attitude. That's what I asked for. Don't point to someone else, and say 'this guy knows.' Especially when your replies, don't address my objections.

                          BIG PICTURE: I in no way intended to be rude, or pretentious by pointing out my healthcare work. I simply spoke toward my experience, and the resulting opinions I've formulated. This is supposed to be a discussion board. Where we share, speculate and discuss. Shouting down and being rude to your peers; really doesn't further that objective.
                          Well said.

                          Regards Pierre

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Fisherman View Post
                            The darkness was not the reason that Paul could not see the mutilations - they were hidden by the clothes. Even Neil and Llewellyn missed them, though guided by light.
                            Paul said that the body was perfectly easy to see, so it was not pitch dark. My guess is that the killer used the ambient light there was.
                            But i thought Paul is the one who pulled the dress down

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by RockySullivan View Post
                              The thing I don't get is when Paul and Cross saw Polly, they couldn't even tell she was ripped up because it was so dark. How could the ripper possibly perform the mutilations in these conditions. Was he working by feel, or did he have a light source?
                              It seems that her killer "merely" deeply slashed Polly's abdomen a few times, Rocky. Doesn't take much illumination to be able to do that.
                              Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                              "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by RockySullivan View Post
                                But i thought Paul is the one who pulled the dress down
                                That is often misunderstood. Paul pulled the dress FURTHER down - but it was already down beyond the genital area when Lechmere arrived. Or so he claimed, at least. Paul managed to pull the dress further down, but it would not go any further than down to the knees.
                                The unmistakeable conclusion is that the killer had hidden the wounds - and that, to me, points in Lechmeres direction.

                                The killer of Tabram, of Chapman, of Eddowes and of Kelly did not bother to hide the wounds - on the contrary, he seemed to take pride in what he had done, if anything.

                                So if it was the same killer in Bucks Row, why would he hide his work there? Who stood to gain from such a thing?

                                You tell me...

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