Lechmere Found "With" Nichols' Body

[Pierre]

Hi Fisherman,

Thanks a lot for your view on the Kelly murder.

Regards Pierre

[Pierre]

Kind of like Sweeney Todd...? Donīt think so - he would not have left that pile of flesh on the bedside table in Millerīs Court if that was the case.

Maybe Praterīs kitten should have it but ran away seeing it.

Pierre

[GUT]

BTW Fish good to see you back posting.

[Rosella]

^ It was probably extremely cold in Elizabeth Prater's room and, as we know, cats love warmth. Diddles was probably seeking a better position near the heat of a human body (a live one!)

[Shaggyrand]

Lechmere shouldn't have dragged his feet after finding the body. If he'd dashed off quicker for a cop, there would be no suspicion now. Unless he went for help too swiftly.

Can we all finally admit cats are *******s and it was little Diddle's first attempt on his pet human's life. First late night attempt that woke her at least. Diddle was a terrible assassin. If she'd had a real companion, like a dog or small nearly starved to death orphan, sleeping at the foot of her bed that startled her awake when someone they knew entered the court... Well, history would be differently known.

[Rosella]

Cats know what side their meals and other comforts are buttered on. She wouldn't have killed off the source of her food supply. On the other hand, it's a pity she didn't venture downstairs and have a go at Jack!

[Fisherman]

Lechmere shouldn't have dragged his feet after finding the body. If he'd dashed off quicker for a cop, there would be no suspicion now. Unless he went for help too swiftly.

Welcome to the meta-world of Ripperology!

Lechmere could not dash for a cop until he examined the body. And he did not examine the body until Paul arrived. So if we reason that he was innocent, then no matter how we look upon things, we cannot possibly say that he dragged his feet.

Once we know for a fact that he spent time alone with the victim, and once we know for a fact that Nichols bled for a number of minutes after Lechmere left the body, there is no way that he can avoid suspicion. It is impossible to clear him, since Paul does not say that he saw and/or heard his fellow carman walking down the street in front of himself.

That is not the same as saying that he could not have been innocent, by the way. But he would need to be cleared before any other people needed to be looked into, just like Andy Griffiths said in the docu.

[drstrange169]

>> Once we know for a fact that he spent time alone with the victim, and once we know for a fact that Nichols bled for a number of minutes after Lechmere left the body ...<<

Looking forward to the day those speculations move onto the fact sheet.



>> ... he would need to be cleared before any other people needed to be looked into, just like Andy Griffiths said in the docu.<<

That ridiculous statement from the seemingly sensible Griffiths has always puzzled me.

Was he really suggesting that if he had evidence that another person might have killed someone he would not have pursued more than one line of inquiry at the same time and risk the killer getting away with it?

[GUT]

Once we know for a fact that he spent time alone with the victim, and once we know for a fact that Nichols bled for a number of minutes after Lechmere left the body,

And if we ever know those for FACTS you may get somewhere, but after countless arguments over them, they are till, in my mind, far from being established facts.

[Shaggyrand]

Cats know what side their meals and other comforts are buttered on. She wouldn't have killed off the source of her food supply. On the other hand, it's a pity she didn't venture downstairs and have a go at Jack!

You gotta hold some respect for the only completely self-domesticating species on Earth. That does not mean that try don't try to kill their person for giggles on occasion. *******s.

And if we ever know those for FACTS you may get somewhere, but after countless arguments over them, they are till, in my mind, far from being established facts.

GUT, haven't you been reading the boards? We've left facts far behind for social constructivist and meta-theorizing in all most every popular thread.

[Fisherman]

And if we ever know those for FACTS you may get somewhere, but after countless arguments over them, they are till, in my mind, far from being established facts.

There are other things that can be discussed in that capacity, but these ARE established facts.
1. He WAS alone with the body - it may have been a few seconds only and he may not have been close enough to touch it, or he may have had lots of time with it, being able to cut away. No matter what, he was alone with the body.
2. She DID bleed for a number of minutes after he left - we have two policemen testifying to that, and so there can be no doubt.

[GUT]

GUT, haven't you been reading the boards? We've left facts far behind for social constructivist and meta-theorizing in all most every popular thread.

Been away for a month, but ain't that the truth.

[Barnaby]

From all this, I conclude that cats are rather worthless creatures in life or death matters. They purr, or they do not. They walk over you, or they do not.

Now a barking dog really interferes with the Ripper's work!

Barnaby says: Dogs > cats.

[Varqm]

There are other things that can be discussed in that capacity, but these ARE established facts.
1. He WAS alone with the body - it may have been a few seconds only and he may not have been close enough to touch it, or he may have had lots of time with it, being able to cut away. No matter what, he was alone with the body.
2. She DID bleed for a number of minutes after he left - we have two policemen testifying to that, and so there can be no doubt.

2. How about before he left?

[GUT]

From all this, I conclude that cats are rather worthless creatures in life or death matters. They purr, or they do not. They walk over you, or they do not.

Now a barking dog really interferes with the Ripper's work!

Barnaby says: Dogs > cats.

Best post on the boards, dogs rule cats drool (even though I have both).