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  • #46
    It's a good job that Abberline isn't still alive. Depp's performance of him as an opium-smoking psychic would finish him off for a second time.

    I've always been amused too by the very attractive East End prostitutes in colourful low cut outfits in JTR films, with their hair flowing down, and perfect teeth. Of course it's understandable from the point of view of a potential audience, but every now and then I think of Polly or Annie in one of those gowns...

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    • #47
      I thought it was very similar to "murder by decree" enjoyable rubbish.
      Three things in life that don't stay hidden for to long ones the sun ones the moon and the other is the truth

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      • #48
        I thought it was good fun. I love the way the film begins with the camera panning across London and then drops down into Dorset Street, and the Ripper`s theme music is excellent, probably the best to date.
        But Depp and Graham are woefully cast

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        • #49
          I remember being really excited about the film, having been a huge fan of the Graphic novel...I knew the Graphic novel was lets just say, not really historically accurate , so I had no doubt the film would be way off as well, but hoped it would be fun, like the book...I went to see it opening night (with a friend who is a big Alan Moore fan but knew next to nothing of the history of the case).. We both left the theater disgusted with what we saw....neither of us felt it did the book justice at all (not to mention the history.. but as I said... I didn't think it would anyway.. so i wasn't upset about that, that part was expected)...

          I ended up buying the 2 disk DVD version (just for the hidden features (in case you don't know 'Jack The Ripper: The Final Solution' (complete) is a hidden Easter egg on the DVD... I got it used for next to nothing so was worth it)..anyway, thinking I would never watch the movie itself again...then a friend of mine saw it on my shelf and said.. Oh I wanted to see that... can we watch it? And I did... this time, I just watched it as a film... not as a film based on the novel...or as a historian.. but just as fluff entertainment... and I was actually surprised.. I kind of enjoyed it (Depp, whom I usually really like is still just phoning in his role... and Graham.. well she is nice to look at anyway) but some of the performances were quite good, Ian Holm was amazing ( even though Nigel Hawthorne.. who was supposed to play the role, but sadly died before may have even made the film better)....and the sets are quite nice.. and there is a decent atmosphere, and a few stunning shots.... overall... as a film.. it wasn’t bad at all...but as piece of history.. garbage.

          Steadmund Brand
          "The truth is what is, and what should be is a fantasy. A terrible, terrible lie that someone gave to the people long ago."- Lenny Bruce

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          • #50
            Terrible movie. Nevermind Abberline being a drug-addled pretty boy and the Masonic piffle, if you're not going to get so much as the basic details of the murders right (Tabram was raped? Nichols was eviscerated? ), then don't even bother. As already stated, the Whitechapel Murders are already a gripping tale without resorting to that kind of sensationalism, but that's Hollyweird for ya!

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Steadmund Brand View Post
              I remember being really excited about the film, having been a huge fan of the Graphic novel...I knew the Graphic novel was lets just say, not really historically accurate , so I had no doubt the film would be way off as well, but hoped it would be fun, like the book...I went to see it opening night (with a friend who is a big Alan Moore fan but knew next to nothing of the history of the case).. We both left the theater disgusted with what we saw....neither of us felt it did the book justice at all (not to mention the history.. but as I said... I didn't think it would anyway.. so i wasn't upset about that, that part was expected)...

              I ended up buying the 2 disk DVD version (just for the hidden features (in case you don't know 'Jack The Ripper: The Final Solution' (complete) is a hidden Easter egg on the DVD... I got it used for next to nothing so was worth it)..anyway, thinking I would never watch the movie itself again...then a friend of mine saw it on my shelf and said.. Oh I wanted to see that... can we watch it? And I did... this time, I just watched it as a film... not as a film based on the novel...or as a historian.. but just as fluff entertainment... and I was actually surprised.. I kind of enjoyed it (Depp, whom I usually really like is still just phoning in his role... and Graham.. well she is nice to look at anyway) but some of the performances were quite good, Ian Holm was amazing ( even though Nigel Hawthorne.. who was supposed to play the role, but sadly died before may have even made the film better)....and the sets are quite nice.. and there is a decent atmosphere, and a few stunning shots.... overall... as a film.. it wasn’t bad at all...but as piece of history.. garbage.

              Steadmund Brand
              "someday men will look back and say that I gave birth to the 20th century"


              just that quote alone at the beginning of the movie!

              As Bob Hinton said, you need to put out of your head the historical part.

              IMHO its a masterpiece of modern suspense/ thriller.

              and gotta love the bittersweet ending! Mary escapes back to Ireland, but abberline dies, not to be reunited.
              "Is all that we see or seem
              but a dream within a dream?"

              -Edgar Allan Poe


              "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
              quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

              -Frederick G. Abberline

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              • #52
                I didn't know it was based on a graphic novel. I thought it was trying to be a serious movie, and with Heather Graham playing Kelly, I didn't want to watch it. I like her, but I thought she would be far too attractive to play Kelly. Now that I know it's based on a work of fiction, I should probably watch it.

                Mike
                huh?

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                • #53
                  I agree with pretty much what everyone has said- potential for a great movie sadly misused.

                  I think I yelled the loudest when 'Abberline' lit the sugar cube on fire to add to his absinthe. Poser!!!! (Sure, burn the sugar if you want to ruin a perfectly good glass of absinthe......geez....)

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                  • #54
                    Some of the artistic/special effects were good, especially that of the elephant man, though having said that there were elements that looked a bit cheap. I think they could have made the picture look a bit more atmospheric, like for example misty and a bit dingy. The music definitely gave the chill factor, especially the tune played on the gramophone.

                    It was defo ruined by Depp & Graham. I don't think he's the best actor, the only film he was good in was Edward Scissorhands. As for Graham, well I don't know how she got the part.
                    Ian Holm (gull) I think he is underestimated and doesn't really get the recognition he deserves. He was good. Katrin Cartlidge (Chapman), Susan Lynch (Stride) those two defo look the part to play Victorian women.

                    As to the story line, well it's a bit worn. I know it doesn't reflect all the details accurately, but it's not strictly a bio pic, and of course they could have put a different spin on it, but it's not the worst ripper film I've seen.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by DarkTaleProductions View Post
                      The movie was on television and I watched it briefly but I was curious what people on here thought of the movie when they first saw it in theaters or video?

                      I'm almost certain this question has been asked so I'm sorry.
                      I did see this movie first run in the theater, and it was interesting from a dramatic point of view. My co-author (of fan fiction) and I were familiar with the JtR cases to a degree, having read a number of books and seen some documentaries and fictional films. We knew enough to know Johhny Depp didn't look very much at all like the real Abberline, for instance.

                      What I didn't know at the time was this movie was more of a loose adaptation of the graphic novel "From Hell: being a melodrama in sixteen scenes" by Alan Moore and Eddie Campbell than it was of the Knight book about the royal conspiracy. (I have recently read the graphic novel, and absolutely loved it! I do recommend it to anyone looking for an engrossing story set in Whitechapel, although Freemasons might not enjoy it.)

                      The movie was pretty good, although violent. I remember at our theater a man walked his teenage daughter out after about ten minutes of the "daughters of joy" plying their business in the beginning of the film. Depp may have been a idol to the high-school girls at the time, but "From Hell" was not suitable for all ages!
                      Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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                      Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Yimmit View Post
                        Howdy y'all
                        I was wondering if someone could or maybe already has compiled a list comparing what 'From Hell' has and what the facts really are.

                        But a comparison list between the facts and what the film make of the facts i think would be very interesting.
                        I would recommend the Appendix of Chapter notes in the 2005 edition of "From Hell" as Moore goes through everything, and is excellent at pointing out what is factual, what is purely from his imagination, etc. Moore's novel is far more attentive to the case, has incidents in the right order, provides all the sightings of Long Liz and her various male escorts, etc., etc. Campbell has drawn the characters to resemble their real-life originals, and his backgrounds are great. There's no such thing as a drug-addicted Abberline in the graphic novel, for instance. Hollywood did a disservice to everyone by optioning this book for screen treatment.
                        Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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                        Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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                        • #57
                          Tales from Development Hell by David Hughes is an excellent primer in understanding the process of getting script to screen, as the quote says "this script is perfect, how can we change it?"
                          All the best.

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                          • #58
                            I saw some of you mentioned other JTR movies, and while one of my favorites, "Murder by Decree" has been mentioned, no one has brought up "Time after Time"-- the only science-fiction take on this subject, and the best, in my opinion!
                            Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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                            Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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                            • #59
                              I liked the atmosphere and some of the cinematography but that's about it. The story was sorta lame, not to mention inaccurate. They must have hired Depp before they found out that he couldn't do a decent British accent.

                              My opinion - never "solve" an unsolved case! I know they think the audience won't be satisfied if things are left up in the air but I don't agree. Do a solved case or fictional movie if you want a tidy conclusion.
                              Last edited by sdreid; 12-20-2014, 06:41 PM.
                              This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                              Stan Reid

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                              • #60
                                I was disappointed to see it deviate along the royal conspiracy lines. And from a creative point of view, I thought it was really poor. Bad acting, bad dialogue, very clunky handling. I'm still waiting for a proper JTR film.

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