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  • #46
    Well, here is another raw youtube vid of Dutfield's Yard (V2).

    The vid is not very high quality, but jittery etc. but I need feedback so far on the layout of the yard now that I've got it all laid out. There are all sorts of things wrong with it but it's NOT the finished version.

    Please tell me what's wrong/right and what should/shouldn't be included etc.

    YouTube link

    thank you
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    • #47
      Some V2 Screenshots for discussion and opinion please:










      thanks

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      • #48
        G'day Richard

        The screenshots look good and can't see anything glaringly wrong.

        But You-tube comes up with something like the Video is Private.
        G U T

        There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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        • #49
          Thanks GUT
          I thought I'd set the video as 'unlisted' because I only wanted to show it to casebook.org folk. It was, however, set to private. Sorry. it should work now.
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          • #50
            Hi Richard

            I've tried the link but Youtube rejects my attempts stating that your video is "private"...maybe this is just a UK thing? Anybody?

            On the "stills" you've published, your revised entrance width is a huge improvement and better represents, I'm sure, the confined nature of the crime scene...however, I would have to query the surface which has been applied to the floor of the yard...

            At times this has been questioned by many persons...Stewart and other authoritative commentators have described it in 1888, if I can paraphrase them, as muddy with the occasional stone, (but also with either a path or paved gutter up the right hand side to the doorway)...I'm sure they'll forgive me if I inadvertently misrepresent them, but I think the cobbled surface you portray is that following extensive improvements carried out subsequent to 1888...

            All the best

            Dave

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            • #51
              Thanks Cogidubnus
              this is exactly what I want. Some feedback. I agree entirely. The floor of the yard has been a bit of an after-thought AND a bit problematic. I'll be working on that aspect for sure.

              Also, the vid should now play. I set it to 'private' by mistake.

              Originally posted by Cogidubnus View Post
              Hi Richard

              I've tried the link but Youtube rejects my attempts stating that your video is "private"...maybe this is just a UK thing? Anybody?

              On the "stills" you've published, your revised entrance width is a huge improvement and better represents, I'm sure, the confined nature of the crime scene...however, I would have to query the surface which has been applied to the floor of the yard...

              At times this has been questioned by many persons...Stewart and other authoritative commentators have described it in 1888, if I can paraphrase them, as muddy with the occasional stone, (but also with either a path or paved gutter up the right hand side to the doorway)...I'm sure they'll forgive me if I inadvertently misrepresent them, but I think the cobbled surface you portray is that following extensive improvements carried out subsequent to 1888...

              All the best

              Dave
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Cogidubnus View Post
                Hi Richard

                I've tried the link but Youtube rejects my attempts stating that your video is "private"...maybe this is just a UK thing? Anybody?

                On the "stills" you've published, your revised entrance width is a huge improvement and better represents, I'm sure, the confined nature of the crime scene...however, I would have to query the surface which has been applied to the floor of the yard...

                At times this has been questioned by many persons...Stewart and other authoritative commentators have described it in 1888, if I can paraphrase them, as muddy with the occasional stone, (but also with either a path or paved gutter up the right hand side to the doorway)...I'm sure they'll forgive me if I inadvertently misrepresent them, but I think the cobbled surface you portray is that following extensive improvements carried out subsequent to 1888...

                All the best

                Dave
                Hi Dave,

                I've heard this before and never really understood how the gutter would have worked if the main part of the yard was bare earth. With frequent vehicular traffic the centre of the yard would have become rutted and rain would have settled there, not run to the margins to be drained away by the gutter.

                MrB

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                • #53
                  Hi Richard,

                  Your recreation of Dutfield's Yard is an astonishing piece of work.

                  Apart from its wealth of detail I liked its eeriness and sense of suspense. I was fully convinced someone was about to appear out of a doorway.

                  Well done. Absolutely first rate.

                  Regards,

                  Simon
                  Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                  • #54
                    Richard, I just want to echo what Simon said. Brilliant job. Either police or one of the doctors mentioned a gutter alongside the building where the body was. I think it was in connection with the flow of blood. I didn't notice any mistakes in your video, by the way.

                    John
                    "We reach. We grasp. And what is left at the end? A shadow."
                    Sherlock Holmes, The Retired Colourman

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                    • #55
                      G'day Richard

                      I'll post as I come to them.

                      At about 0.50 you have a grate in the wall, I always thought that it was in the ground, providing light access to the basement, but I may well be wrong.
                      G U T

                      There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                      • #56
                        The doors on the left at 1.20 may need another step, only because as it is that grate seems higher than the floor and if so would thus open into the room.
                        G U T

                        There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                        • #57
                          On 2nd look the grate at 0.50 might be low enough.

                          No hand rail on the stairs?
                          G U T

                          There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                          • #58
                            Other than those very minor points, all I can say is stop showing off.
                            G U T

                            There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                            • #59
                              Just wanted to say what amazing work this video is and how illustrative. Really well done and thanks for sharing this with everyone. It is very appreciated.

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                              • #60
                                Stunning work. Is it possible to render in colour or even provide a night version? No rush. Just curious as I love these.

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